Brexit, for once some facts.

jonathan.agnew

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Almost all of us will through a continuously falling standard of living. A component of that will be the ill effects of mass migration subtracting from existing population's standards.

Social engineering will play a big part as changes are forced upon us, such as the reductions in car ownership and usage, and ever reducing living accommodation.

In short, it will all be so gradual that it will have happened before any real protest can stop it. Indeed, much of it has already happened.
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I agree, but the older I get the more I'm not sure it's a bad thing. In my deprived depopulated neck of the calabria woods I know a landscape gardener who drives a twenty year old seicento and live in a 50k euro house. But has a far higher quality of life than some seriously affluent folk in central london. And I mean quality of food, air, climate, leisure, beaches (the only missing link out here is direct professional infrastructure). The American dream of never ending affluence can be misguided.
 
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"The Digital Services Act" or actually
The Doublespeak Zerveillanze Act, ja?
"Back in the EUSSR" o_O
One of the objectives is to control misinformation.
Have you ever seen a fact checked content being taken to court on the basis of the EU DSA?
 

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Out of tune, out of touch, and possibly out of his mind?
The demokratik congressman who thought too many soldiers on island of Guam might sink it! Wow, genius :p
or the Republican who thinks demanding regime change is de-escalatory
 

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or the Republican who thinks demanding regime change is de-escalatory
The "Arab Spring" myth again.

We've seen many regime changes in the Middle East, they're always to "same again". And always will be while Islam exists.
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:confused: I vonder vonder vhy?
Most western European countries can only afford to pension 15 years after retirement. As life expectancy rises with reduction in pollution and advance in medical care, it's prudent to increase retirement age.
 

flecc

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Most western European countries can only afford to pension 15 years after retirement. As life expectancy rises with reduction in pollution and advance in medical care, it's prudent to increase retirement age.
They are pushing their luck though. Their female life expectancy is 86 years but male only 79 years, this latter the same as ours in Britain. Danish males have a right to feel aggrieved at being sold short.

It would be more sensible to call it Pension Age, retirement age should be left up to each individual. That's something our government needs to learn, instead of arrogantly and wrongly calling many retired people "economically inactive".
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They are pushing their luck though. Their female life expectancy is 86 years but male only 79 years, this latter the same as ours in Britain. Danish males have a right to feel aggrieved at being sold short.

It would be more sensible to call it Pension Age, retirement age should be left up to each individual. That's something our government needs to learn, instead of arrogantly and wrongly calling many retired people "economically inactive".
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They do leave to personal choice. If you work for EDF or SNCF, you could retire at the age of 55 with a reduced pension.
 

flecc

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They do leave to personal choice. If you work for EDF or SNCF, you could retire at the age of 55 with a reduced pension.
And many other companies too. But the government doesn't leave it personal choice. They play the guilt game to say that we, the early retired are to blame for the government revenues being inadequate.

Not true of course, here's why they are:

The wealthy inadequately taxed through tax havens we deliberately create for that purpose

Costly involvement in America's wars that are nothing to do with us, from Korea 1950 through to Ukraine now.

Huge expenditure on defence equipment that threatens us rather than defends us, for example an assault fleet, two aircaft carriers, large numbers of F35B bombers, Polaris and Trident. All of which makes us a target for any belligerant who feels threatened by it.

And the pretence of being a first world power, implicit in the above.
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All trump thinks about is how to help people (like him) paying less tax. Unlike NewYork (and other blue states) Florida does not charge income tax.

 

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All trump thinks about is how to help people (like him) paying less tax. Unlike NewYork (and other blue states) Florida does not charge income tax.

Is that a No STATE or FEDERAL income tax in Florida?
This suggests that US "federal" started in 1913

But others suggest otherwise..

Rome: 1% income tax, sounds good. I mean they never had armies going around, invading everywhere..oh!.. it went up to 3% for.. War

UK it was 1898, by William Pitt jnr, the bleep, to pay for.. Guess.. War.

Now defence spending is to increase to 5% of GDP for.. need I say it? War!

So support your local friendly warmonger?
 

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Is that a No STATE or FEDERAL income tax in Florida?
This suggests that US "federal" started in 1913
New York state charges between 4% and 10.9% state income tax on a sliding scale on top of federal income tax while Florida charges nothing on your income.
 

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Most western European countries can only afford to pension 15 years after retirement. As life expectancy rises with reduction in pollution and advance in medical care, it's prudent to increase retirement age.
But the Sceance-tists said we would be living a life of ease with robots doing all the hard and dangerous work. Beep boop? ;)
What happened to "scientific advancement"?
Why did we not "Progress" instead of regress?
Where did/is all the money go/ing?


And an example of institutional "creative accounting"


How do you think all these people in corp/gov/ngo/charities non jobs are living like millionaires. They didn't earn it! 6 more "Vice presidents". Well, they're half right!
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