DIY Kit - a great success

D C

Esteemed Pedelecer
Apr 25, 2013
1,142
577
I've been meaning to post about my fitting and using experience for some time but decided to wait till I had done a few hundred miles.
After much reading of this forum and lots of helpful information and advice, I decided to take the plunge and ordered a kit from Cyclotricity without the pedal assist but with the 10 Ah pannier rack battery.
Though this isn't specially a review of their product I have to say they where superb to deal with. The kit is very well made, it arrived on time, very well packaged and for the price and for my requirements I find it suits me perfectly.
Prior to it's arrival I acquired a superbly made torque arm from Cyclezee, again a joy to deal with (being a bit of a belt and braces person I wanted a bit of reassurance that my alloy forks would be OK).
I have two bikes and wasn't sure which was going to get the kit but in the end I decided to put it on my Raleigh hardtail “winter” bike and maybe save my “best” bike for shorter rides which wouldn't stress my dodgy knee too much.
I found that fitting was easy by following the on line instructions and with very careful use of a file to widen the forks and a long overnight charge I was ready to go the morning after.
I can hardly describe the wonderful feeling of being able to once again cycle 20 miles plus without feeling I was damaging my knee on the pretty severe hills we have around here but was amazed how much the extra weight changes the handling characteristics of the bike.
I wasn't aware too much of having to pedal harder on the slight hills and almost no extra effort on the flat but it does make a familiar bike feel like a first time ride.
After a couple of hundred miles or so I had become quite used to the bike again, even the strange understeer effect becoming oversteer when turning under power!
My riding is mainly off road and I soon began to miss the rear suspension of my Schwinn Rocket.
Having become a complete convert to assisted cycling I realised that I would now always want to use a bike with a motor so decided to remove the kit from my Raleigh and fit it to my Schwinn.
After a bit of fiddling to fit the battery to the seat post rack and more very careful file use on the forks I was ready to go again.
I nearly took the kit straight off, my super bike which had seemed like a part of me now had a totally alien feel, however experience with the Raleigh made me persevere and now after a hundred or so more miles the bike feels fine though much less nimble and this is where the kit will stay.



Summing up,
I'm glad that I didn't fit a pedal assist system as my wish was to pedal as much as possible under my own power and just use the throttle where I need a bit of help, this works perfectly for me but may not suit some folk as much.
I love the small thumb throttle which I've fitted on the left so I can easily use the rear shifter whilst under power and have now become adept at using it gradually rather than as an on/off switch!
I didn't fit the cut off brake levers as I prefer the ones I have but I converted one of them to a “kill” switch in case the throttle ever sticks on.
I carefully followed the Cyclotricity instructions about battery charging and find that even with aggressive MTB tyres (front 35psi/rear 45 psi) I still have three green lights after 25 miles or so in very hilly terrain (I'm no lightweight either).
I could have probably managed with a smaller battery but I guess I'll have a bit spare for when the battery deteriorates over time.
I suspect that a rear motor would be slightly better in some respects as on stoney/gritty tracks I can get a bit of wheel spin as the front wheel bounces, no big deal but I think I'll be buying more front tyres than I used to.
Maybe a bottle battery would be better for weight distribution though no room on my frame for that.
To finally finish up after this rather long post, I could not be more pleased with the kit and the outcome of fitting the kit which has made it possible to continue my enjoyable hobby for a few more years.
Dave.
 

peerjay56

Esteemed Pedelecer
May 24, 2013
745
201
Nr Ingleton, N. Yorkshire
Thanks Dave.
Interestingly, I have purchased the same kit, but have gone for the pedelec + throttle option (I've previously fitted an Alien Ocean kit to my wife's bike with pedelec. It's a faff to fit, but works very well; and you still get to pedal - level of assistance or not is up to you).
As I started to prepare my bike, I realised that the frame needed a bit of tidying - it's now being sandblasted and stove enamelled courtesy of Ellis Briggs in Shipley! Not in the original plan but I hope it will give the frame a new lease of life. It's certainly given me the opportunity to completely overhaul the bike. In the meantime, my cyclotricity kit is going nowhere;)
Once I get the frame back, I'll try to document the build, and any tribulations it throws up...

Phil
 

D C

Esteemed Pedelecer
Apr 25, 2013
1,142
577
Thanks Dave.
Interestingly, I have purchased the same kit, but have gone for the pedelec + throttle option (I've previously fitted an Alien Ocean kit to my wife's bike with pedelec. It's a faff to fit, but works very well; and you still get to pedal - level of assistance or not is up to you).
As I started to prepare my bike, I realised that the frame needed a bit of tidying - it's now being sandblasted and stove enamelled courtesy of Ellis Briggs in Shipley! Not in the original plan but I hope it will give the frame a new lease of life. It's certainly given me the opportunity to completely overhaul the bike. In the meantime, my cyclotricity kit is going nowhere;)
Once I get the frame back, I'll try to document the build, and any tribulations it throws up...

Phil
I did toy with the idea of getting the pedal assist which would fit on the hard tail but not on the Schwinn as the suspension rotates round the bottom bracket and there's virtually no clearance. I've never seen another quite like it, it locks up when you stand up in the pedals so you can climb hills without loosing leg power.
I pedal all the time even when using the throttle (though I no longer need to stand up) and often only need part throttle for most of the hills.
I've also found that using throttle only is great for negotiating some of the more awkward narrow tracks where you are riding in a rut without clearance to pedal.
I've tried riding a fair distance with the battery fitted but not using it and the bike's still easy to ride, comforting to know if I run out of battery power.
One thing I would like to do is somehow lower the rack in order to lower the centre of gravity, still thinking about that one!
Thanks for your comments.

Dave.