Ebike charging using Street EV chargers for electric cars

danielrlee

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Possibly:
Potentially the level could be so low the station will not recognise it as a "proper" charge, from being some sort of fault?
There's lots of examples of individuals using EV charging points to charge regular electric bike batteries and I've never encountered any evidence to suggest that this would be the case. Why do you consider this a possibility?
 

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Let's say it works. What's the difference in sitting in McDs for 5 hours while your battery charges or Asda. At least in McDs, you have your battery and charger with you. How are you going to stop someone nicking your charger or are you going to stand next to it for 5 hours?
 

danielrlee

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Let's say it works. What's the difference in sitting in McDs for 5 hours while your battery charges or Asda. At least in McDs, you have your battery and charger with you. How are you going to stop someone nicking your charger or are you going to stand next to it for 5 hours?
You're asking the wrong person. All my bikes use high C rate LiCo cells and allow charging at 3000W.
 

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There's lots of examples of individuals using EV charging points to charge regular electric bike batteries and I've never encountered any evidence to suggest that this would be the case. Why do you consider this a possibility?
For the reason I said, that it is quite possible the designers of these EV charging points might well have implemented a provision to expect the characteristics of an EV?
Seeing otherwise, as a potential tampering attempt or another abnormally, but not as intend and go into a protection role.

This is certainly the case with LA smart chargers, [mine anyway], there if they don't see what they "ought" they don't supply.

From what you say then they have no such client or self-protection of that sort, to me very surprising.
 

Nealh

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Huh? Your charger will regulate the charge current just as it does when plugged in to any other 3-pin electrical socket.
I wasn't thinking straight when I answered, I was thinking direct plug in but that isn't possible. Bugger carrying a charger along with you, just easier to have enough wh to cover the ride period.
Using you own charger will have no faster charge rate then doing so at home.
 
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I wouldn't worry. There aren't enough rare earth metals to make sufficient batteries to replace every ICE car 1:1 with an electric one. The lions share of what there is available is situated on countries not terribly well disposed to the west mainly China. A trade war or even a real shooting conflic tpand suddenly over 2/3 of the Worlds supply stops dead.

Initially folk will hang on to their fossil fuel cars for dear life when this realisation sinks into the public consciousness, but evenually they'll gall by the wayside leaving electeic cars only, but not enougn to go around.

This scarcity will hit prices, which will make them less affordable for the average person.

Add these factors up and the bottom line is in 20 or 25 years time there will be far fewer cars of any type, and far more personal mobility in the form of bicycles and ebikes. The massive demand on the national grid from 30 million odd electeic automobiles is simply never going to happen.

Society needs to get it into its thick skull that the age of unfettered autombile use without consequences is drawing to an end, and the sooner they figure it out then the less painful that realisation will be socially, economically, strategically and personally.
 
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I wasn't thinking straight when I answered, I was thinking direct plug in but that isn't possible. Bugger carrying a charger along with you, just easier to have enough wh to cover the ride period.
Using you own charger will have no faster charge rate then doing so at home.
Well I'd obviously be plugging the charger into the UK 3 pin, secondly the aim of extending my distance would be for bike packing/camping so I'd also be prepared for carrying the extra weight.

Where I plan to camp is only 23 miles away which is in range one way of a single charge (36v 10ah) however I need to get back, the Asda at 13 miles is one of the last stops before going up on into a mountainous national park which I'll also need a healthy amount of battery for.

Let's say it works. What's the difference in sitting in McDs for 5 hours while your battery charges or Asda. At least in McDs, you have your battery and charger with you. How are you going to stop someone nicking your charger or are you going to stand next to it for 5 hours?
It's rural so there's not a McD's near, there are a few pubs and restaurants scattered further that way but when things do open up there might still be a chance of them operating under strict covid restrictions particularly outdoor and takeaway service only so getting a charge from them might be harder.

As for long charge times I only should need around 2-3 hours to fill it up from 50%, while it might look a bit weird to passers by a could pop out a camping stool and watch Netflix on a tablet while it charges and it's at the back of the car park anyway.

It would be nice in general to know whether these BP Chargemaster 3kw stations with 3 pin sockets are a viable option for ebike charging, here's a map:

 

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Has anyone contacted these providers, such as BP-pulse for their take on the use of these public EV charging stations for our ebikes?
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I presume the outlets, irrespective of the plug type are 230 VAC at 50 Hz, with possibly single and three phases. [With Tesla being a major EV player assuming the AC is to European standards, might be a questionable assumption?]
Are there adaptor plugs converting Type 2 & Type 1 to a single phase UK standard 13 amp socket, as our chargers generally feature?
 

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Has anyone contacted these providers, such as BP-pulse for their take on the use of these public EV charging stations for our ebikes?
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I presume the outlets, irrespective of the plug type are 230 VAC at 50 Hz, with possibly single and three phases. [With Tesla being a major EV player assuming the AC is to European standards, might be a questionable assumption?]
Are there adaptor plugs converting Type 2 & Type 1 to a single phase UK standard 13 amp socket, as our chargers generally feature?
 
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Nealh

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For bike packing then carrying a charger isn't an issue really, I hadn't thought about that scenario.