I discovered this EU source of LiPos through eBay today. Their web site is:
M3Shop
They offer a full selection of LiPos in voltages and amperage suitable for most electric bicycles, and for EU customers their prices are attractive compared with imports from, for example, BatterySpace.com specializes in universal power supplies like rechargeable batteries and chargers in the USA which are subject to additional high courier charges, handling fees, and VAT.
However, like many other German and Austrian sellers they do not accept credit card and Paypal payments, thus denying themselves increased sales in the UK where most banks charge exorbitant fees for transfers from the Sterling to the Euro zone (mine must be the highest at £39 regardless of the amount involved). But see correction below
The other problem of course for non-linguists is understanding the technical details, all given only in German. It is not clear to me how their LiPos charge and discharge when they appear to have only two leads, one positive, one negative, whereas those from batteryspace have separate leads for charging and discharging. They do have the essential protection circuits built into the pack but there are some mysterious references to "balancing" connectors. One other drawback is that their chargers seem to come in low voltage only so that they require an adaptor for connection to the mains carrying which could be a nuisance on tour.
It would be nice if m3shop could provide a short summary in English, and take Paypal (even adding on the 3% surcharge).
Added later: After a close look at their Conditions of sale etc I found the following:
Die Bezahlung kann für registrierte Nutzer per Vorkasse , Kreditkarte oder per Nachnahme( nur Österreich) erfolgen.
which does seem to suggest they do accept credit cards from registered customers. On the other hand I also found a suggestion in their other condtions that they supply only to Germany, Holland, Switzerland and Spain!
Latest Amendment: I have just received this email from Michael Mader of M3 shop:
hi william
thank you for your interessting mail. i also saw your posting on the forum
the short version:
1) we will deliver worldwide, also to UK and scotland
2) we accept credit card (visa and mastercard) and bank transfer with
iban and account number on our account in germany, austria and switzerland
i will also transfer the technical details onf this product into a
english versions but give me some time to translate
regards michael mader
Sounds hopeful.
M3Shop
They offer a full selection of LiPos in voltages and amperage suitable for most electric bicycles, and for EU customers their prices are attractive compared with imports from, for example, BatterySpace.com specializes in universal power supplies like rechargeable batteries and chargers in the USA which are subject to additional high courier charges, handling fees, and VAT.
However, like many other German and Austrian sellers they do not accept credit card and Paypal payments, thus denying themselves increased sales in the UK where most banks charge exorbitant fees for transfers from the Sterling to the Euro zone (mine must be the highest at £39 regardless of the amount involved). But see correction below
The other problem of course for non-linguists is understanding the technical details, all given only in German. It is not clear to me how their LiPos charge and discharge when they appear to have only two leads, one positive, one negative, whereas those from batteryspace have separate leads for charging and discharging. They do have the essential protection circuits built into the pack but there are some mysterious references to "balancing" connectors. One other drawback is that their chargers seem to come in low voltage only so that they require an adaptor for connection to the mains carrying which could be a nuisance on tour.
It would be nice if m3shop could provide a short summary in English, and take Paypal (even adding on the 3% surcharge).
Added later: After a close look at their Conditions of sale etc I found the following:
Die Bezahlung kann für registrierte Nutzer per Vorkasse , Kreditkarte oder per Nachnahme( nur Österreich) erfolgen.
which does seem to suggest they do accept credit cards from registered customers. On the other hand I also found a suggestion in their other condtions that they supply only to Germany, Holland, Switzerland and Spain!
Latest Amendment: I have just received this email from Michael Mader of M3 shop:
hi william
thank you for your interessting mail. i also saw your posting on the forum
the short version:
1) we will deliver worldwide, also to UK and scotland
2) we accept credit card (visa and mastercard) and bank transfer with
iban and account number on our account in germany, austria and switzerland
i will also transfer the technical details onf this product into a
english versions but give me some time to translate
regards michael mader
Sounds hopeful.
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