Eurobike-2 days is not enough

Kudoscycles

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As someone who has to attend many shows each year I wasn't ready for the intensity of Eurobike. There are literally bikes crossing from all directions,there must be contact but I must say I never saw a crash,the Germans are fast but good riders.
Bosch are going for world domination with their crank drive motor,every other stand had a Bosch powered e-bike-I rode a Cannondale Bosch-Alfine 8 'up the hill' it was an impressive hill climber but had the annoying habit of the power switching on/off immediately the 25kmh limit was bridged,not progressive at all...nice build quality but Euro 2799.00!
Another stand claimed big things for their programming and crank sensor,no name mentioned,I must say I couldn't tell any difference from a Kudos speed sensor bike and if anything my King bike was a better hill climber,I tried explaining that maybe it was unfair because his bike was 28" and the King was 26",he lost patience with me at that point that his wonderful invention I failed to grasp.
Quite frankly these big German companies just don't see the point of spending time with an English customer,their attitude is our volumes just don't justify any effort. The exception was KTM,I thought their MACINA BOLD 26 to be the nearest thing to value for money I could find.... they had a new ladies e-shopper but at close to Euro 3000 to go down to Tescos?
I sat in a market square in Konstanz,every other car was a brand new Merc or BMW and all their bikes were also brand new and e-bikes were everywhere.
Some of the Asian suppliers seemed to have been infected by the German price points and those that didn't comply seemed to be pushed out to the Zepellin hall,which was remote enough not to be an easy visit.
Eurobike is so big that ten days would be a more realistic time span to absorb all that was on offer.Electric bikes seem to have gone from fringe to mainstream business.
One interesting point made to me by a sales guy was the reason why the sales price had to be so high was to allow for a trade in of an old bike,which really had no value but paid for the deposit on the new bicycle,effectively the customer is getting his own money back but as long as he keeps buying a new bike every 3 years that is lost in the transaction,that would support my viewing of new bikes everywhere-what happens to the trade in bikes,you never see a rusty old bike.
For a holiday the area around Friedrichshafen is beautiful,the lake is stunning,not a road pothole in site,cycle lanes through wonderful countryside and in that German way everything works,but with the traffic a bike gets around quicker than a car.
An interesting new product was the seven speed auto transmission from TranzX,they were working on combining that with a crank drive motor to create a fully integrated system-I felt the danger was that the system would be too perfect and the character of cycling would be lost in the technology.
Will all this come to the UK? Are we prepared to pay for it?
Dave
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eddieo

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Great report Dave..any pictures?

I go to the largest motorhome show in Germany from time to time, normally when thinking of buying a new camper just to see what is available in one spot.....It is an enormous show, and very tiring but we plan out what we want to see in all the halls, and that way we see what we want within a few days......I guess bikes a bit different as so much new stuff, you know nothing about appearing. I will definitely visit this show next year though...
 

kitchenman

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Thanks for the report Dave. As a dealer you have to go. I dont think I will. Sounds like my worst nightmare. I don't suppose you saw anything like:
A trike for Tara (including delivery!)
A spoke clamping system for connecting cogs to hubs
A "tube clamp and bracket system" for connecting hub motors to frames
Onbike camera systems with rear view gadgets ...
 

oigoi

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Interesting report Dave, for me there are two things that intrigue me - 1) prices being inflated to allow for trade ins. To me this is an element of consumerism that I do not like - it is the manufacturers way of encouraging the customer to buy another bike every few years. Probably coupled with an artificially high replacement battery price to also encourage throwing away your bike and buying a new one.
Electric bikes being something that should benefit the environment I prefer it when manufacturers are more supportive of maintaining and continuing to use the bike you have.

2) I do like part of the idea of the Tranz-x system - an integrated motor / gearbox 7 speed drive - but I would not make it automatic, perhaps it would be like driving an automatic car when you are used to a manual
 

Kudoscycles

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eddie,
Only the last day of the show is open to the public...it must be so busy with only one day available....they have filters to restrict all other days to trade only,but like most shows a determined attendee could overcome.
Dave
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