Exciting New Project

[saneagle]

A very good idea.

You could use one of these with some sillsons/adjustable spanner/water pump pliers:

I tried all that and what Sturmey said, with a lot of help from Thor's 1.6kg lump hammer. If it would be that easy, it would be done. If you remember, the last Argos folder I did had the same problem, and I successfully got it off using those methods. It's extremely difficult to hold a stilson or monkey wrench onto the thin metal while you try to turn it, and the metal is starting to distort. That's why I need a tool that's 100% the right shape:

Pardon our interruption...

 

[Tony1951]

I tried all that and what Sturmey said, with a lot of help from Thor's 1.6kg lump hammer. If it would be that easy, it would be done. If you remember, the last Argos folder I did had the same problem, and I successfully got it off using those methods. It's extremely difficult to hold a stilson or monkey wrench onto the thin metal while you try to turn it, and the metal is starting to distort. That's why I need a tool that's 100% the right shape:

Pardon our interruption...

That tool is pretty cheap.

I have had some bad experience with cheap tools which are supposed to remove tight things like you are describing. I had a problem on my old car with a windscreen wiper mechanism and the repair required that I pull the wiper arm off a taper. I bought a universal wiper arm puller and it broke first use. I worked out a way to get it off with old motorbike tyre levers and that worked. There were other failures too. One was a crank arm puller that stripped the threads on the arm and caused me to abandon the task. I gave the bike away to a ragamuffin.

 

[Waspy]

I tried all that and what Sturmey said, with a lot of help from Thor's 1.6kg lump hammer. If it would be that easy, it would be done. If you remember, the last Argos folder I did had the same problem, and I successfully got it off using those methods. It's extremely difficult to hold a stilson or monkey wrench onto the thin metal while you try to turn it, and the metal is starting to distort. That's why I need a tool that's 100% the right shape:

Pardon our interruption...

Yeah, I think it's a very satisfying feeling having exactly the right tool for the job. But what a stupid design of a bottom bracket.

But I would still like to hear you've tried to fit the motor wheel with a 9 speed cassette fitted.

 

[saneagle]

That tool is pretty cheap.

I have had some bad experience with cheap tools which are supposed to remove tight things like you are describing. I had a problem on my old car with a windscreen wiper mechanism and the repair required that I pull the wiper arm off a taper. I bought a universal wiper arm puller and it broke first use. I worked out a way to get it off with old motorbike tyre levers and that worked. There were other failures too. One was a crank arm puller that stripped the threads on the arm and caused me to abandon the task. I gave the bike away to a ragamuffin.

My plan is that tool and a bit of heat. If it doesn't work, I'll weld a 3 foot bar to it directly. If that doesn't work, it'll be chucked in a skip.

 

[Waspy]

There were other failures too. One was a crank arm puller that stripped the threads on the arm and caused me to abandon the task. I gave the bike away to a ragamuffin.

Been there, done that. I will now only ever use a Park Tool crank arm puller.

 

[Waspy]

My plan is that tool and a bit of heat. If it doesn't work, I'll weld a 3 food bar to it directly. If that doesn't work, it'll be chucked in a skip.

Oh crep, I feel partly responsible. Let's hope the new tool works.

 

[pedalfettal]

Amaxon - Bike Bottle Holder Mount Adapter

These are worth a try - rubber coated with rubber straps

 

[guerney]

It's great to see someone convert an Argos Urban

I retract my previous comments.

 

[saneagle]

Amaxon - Bike Bottle Holder Mount Adapter

These are worth a try - rubber coated with rubber straps

Thanks everybody for ideas. I think some of those things are OK if you're scared to drill. personally, I wouldn't be happy to have a 3.5kg battery held on by any of those bodge methods. 20 mins work and two 5 pence rivnuts got me this. Now I have three strong rivnuts to fix the battery base to:

 

[saneagle]

I retract my previous comments.

That's very kind of you. I had thought you wanted to see me suffer.

 

[Sturmey]

...... It's extremely difficult to hold a stilson or monkey wrench onto the thin metal while you try to turn it, and the metal is starting to distort.......

You let the bolt and large washer hold it as shown below.

 

[saneagle]

Oh crep, I feel partly responsible. Let's hope the new tool works.

Don't worry, it's going to be super in about a week when I get the tool and the new gears and brakes.

 

[saneagle]

You let the bolt and large washer hold it as shown below.
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As I said, that's how I got the last one off a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Tony1951]

You let the bolt and large washer hold it as shown below.
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Jeez - that's some tool you've got there!

 

[Sparksandbangs]

Jeez - that's some tool you've got there!

Where I used to work that would have been called the small set of stilsons.

 

[Sturmey]

Jeez - that's some tool you've got there!

Here's my tool for removing stubborn freewheels.

 

[guerney]

My plan is that tool and a bit of heat. If it doesn't work, I'll weld a 3 foot bar to it directly. If that doesn't work, it'll be chucked in a skip.

Rather than chucking it into a skip, if you can't remove it - is cutting and filing a big notch and installing one of your hated mid-drives a possibility? You've got one of those seemingly awful TSDZ2B objects spare.

 

[saneagle]

Rather than chucking it into a skip, if you can't remove it - is cutting and filing a big notch and installing one of your hated mid-drives a possibility? You've got one of those seemingly awful TSDZ2B objects spare.

Unfortunately, You have to remove it to get a crank-drive in.

 

[Woosh]

My plan is that tool and a bit of heat. If it doesn't work, I'll weld a 3 foot bar to it directly. If that doesn't work, it'll be chucked in a skip.

I once clamped the freewheel in a vice and grab the tyre to turn the wheel.

 

[guerney]

Rather than chucking it into a skip, if you can't remove it - is cutting and filing a big notch and installing one of your hated mid-drives a possibility? You've got one of those seemingly awful TSDZ2B objects spare.

What's the measurement of the BB, BTW? Is installing a mid-drive without that thing possible on that bike? If not too wide for a mid-drive, cut and file away enough for a mid-drive axle? Cut four equidistant triangles to fit a square bar into the middle, turn it off using a pipe wrench? Or dremel cut a triangular notch on the outside to fit the hook end of that tool you linked above, holding the tool on using the widget Sturmey suggested? Hope you managethe feat, however you go about it.