Here is a look at my Dahon Espresso rebuild project

vhfman

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Last year I built the 250W Bafang front hub, (Alien Ocean kit from a previous bike build) into a Dahon Espresso folding bike.

I found that the hub at the front and battery at the back of the bike produced a reasonable balance. But on loose surfaces and steep hill climbs, the front wheel often seemed to lose traction and felt skittish. On rough surfaces (including potholed roads) the extra weight of the front hub made an uncomfortable ride, and seemed to jar up through the forks.

So earlier this year I decided a rebuild with a rear hub was the ticket. There has been much talk about the Bafang BPM hub on this and other ebike forums. So I decided to order a 36V 350w code 12 hub with hall sensors from BMS Battery in China.
After many weeks of waiting, the hub, controller, and a few other bits and bobs arrived, all ready for the wheel build. I had previously ordered a rim from a UK supplier, in readiness for the build. But I hadn’t checked the rim, and I was disappointed when I came to lace the wheel. It was a 32h rim not the 36h I'd ordered! This then lead to another frustrating delay waiting for the replacement rim to arrive. Yet another delay when the spokes I got from BMS Battery were not suitable for my rim. I had to get some more, custom cut, and supplied from the USA. It would have been easier and cheaper to have bought the wheel laced in China!

Eventually I built the wheel and fitted a Sunrace 7 Speed Freewheel - 13/28T, and all looks good; it fits in the rear drop out perfectly, and runs round and true.
The Espresso frame has no disk brake mounts. So I am using rear V brakes, not the originals as they were catching on the SKS mudguard. I have some Deore M530s spare, so they are fitted and working OK. I had intended to refit the original Espresso forks, but they also have no disk brake mounts. I wanted some stopping power for all the downhill runs in my neighbourhood. So I kept the Gusset Cr-Mo; which I used when I fitted the 8Fun front hub last year. These do have a disk mount, so I’ve fitted an Avid BB7 185mm disk on the front, connected up with Goodridge cable. The front wheel is a temporary solution until I have the time, and energy to fit a better one.

The controller is a 12 FET 36-48v universal type from BMS Battery. And the battery is a homemade 36v (36-41v) 12s A123 pack. I am not using a BMS, as the controller has a 31V LVC. The battery can be varied in size from a small 2.3Ah 12s1p weighing ~940g for light weight short trips; through to 13.8Ah 12s6p @ 5.5Kg for the longer more strenuous journeys. I made the packs up in 2 X 6s cells this allows me to balance charge them with a standard charger. I have a couple of iCharger 106B-plus 250W chargers, and two 13.8v 20A power supplies. Alternatively the batteries can be charged with a standard LiFePO4 charger with 43.8v cv 5A output (12 X 3.65v). A123 cells appear to keep their balance well, and therefore do not require balance charging so frequently. One of the drawbacks of this battery arrangement is the number of external cables and connectors I’ve had to make up. But the versatility of the battery is what I wanted, so I am happy with this arrangement.

Just on a quick test ride the BPM hub has plenty of torque, and the peak power I am seeing on the watt meter, is around 1100W!

The bike feels better on the road with the rear hub, less jarring on the handlebars. But with the battery at the back as well as the hub the bike does have an unbalanced feel when lifted. I will look at other places to mount the batteries if I can. After many vague ideas, there are not too many locations on this folding bike to fit batteries. I am thinking of making some bags to fit over the frame somewhere up front. Not sure whether to fit the matching SKS Chromoplastic mudguard, or as the front wheel is QR removable, a clip on MTB mudguard. The modified and converted bike with hub, rack, controller, and cables etc, but excluding the battery, weighs 20Kg.

The build has taken quite a long time, partly due to delays in shipping, and unfortunately, my health problems (ME), which have hampered the speed of the project. At the moment I’m not up to long rides, but I do hope that I can continue with some more extensive tests soon.

I do have, yet another part finished project on the go! Based on my very much modified Claud Butler MTB, (basically just the frame is left from the original bike) to which I am fitting a MAC geared rear hub motor from Paul Cell-man.

It seems very similar to the Bafang BPM motor; slightly larger in diameter. When I bench tested them both, I think it may be quieter and have less drag, I will have to wait and see when I finish the MAC build.

I will get back to the MAC build later and post some more details, and try a comparison with the BPM.

Anyhow here are some pictures of the rebuilt Espresso.

Right side view

Left side view

Controller and switch box

BPM and sprockets



Chris
 

vhfman

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A few more pictures

Here are some more pictures.

12s1p A123 pack 39V 2.3Ah

2 X 12s1p packs and some of the leads and connectors

Espresso folded


Chris
 

jerrysimon

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Like the A123 arrangement. As you say provides good flexibility if you do varrying length trips.

I have been running a 12s1p pack for over 18 months, 1800 miles with over 300 charge cycles. The are still very well balanced with no BMS. They take a few weeks to settle down balance wise when new, but as you say after that do not need to be ballanced charged.

Ps this is a nice little cheep device for quickly checking the balance of a 6s pack.

CellLog 8s



It will also provide a log of real time usage (if you leave it connected when you go out). Details in my A123 build thread here

Regards

Jerry
 
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vhfman

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Yes thanks for that Jerry.
I followed with interest, your small battery build thread, right from when you first started the project way back at the end of 2009. In fact I got the A123 cells from the same source as you, OMG. I found Ray very good to communicate with and reliable, so your link was very useful.
And yes again to the Cell-logs. I have 6 of them; they will be very useful to monitor the batteries performance in real time situations. I hope to do some more trips out over the next few days. That will give me more data to record about the performance of both the battery and the BPM hub. I have a feeling; I will probably have to use more than a single 2.3Ah pack with the BPM hub, especially as I am in an extremely hilly location. And as I noted on the power meter during the quick test rides, I was seeing peaks of 1100W, over 28A. That was not on the really steep stuff I have to tackle.
The BPM seems to run quieter than the old 8Fun front hub I have been using. And it certainly has more torque, which should help my weak leg muscles power up the steeper grades.

I forgot to mention in my first post in this thread, that I have opened up the controller and added a couple of wires and a pre-charge resistor. This allows the capacitors to charge up slowly, and stops the spark when connecting the battery to the controller. Those big capacitors in the supply rail of the controller look like a short circuit when you attach a low impedance battery until they charge up. This should stop the connectors from pitting and wearing out prematurely. It also helps by protecting the capacitors from shock damage as well.

It’s one of the things I don’t like about many of the switch mode power supplies and charges used today. Even quite small charges/power supplies can give a noticeable spark as you plug them into the mains supply.

Chris
 

jerrysimon

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Chris I usually put a switch in the circuit and plug everything in, before I switch on which stops visable sparking.

Strangely with the chargers pluging the batter in after you turn the charger on stops the sparking.

I have also built a bike for my daughter with M.E. and much as I am happy using Deans connectors I deciced to make her pack more self contained with a better connector, so she would not see any sparking.




Regards

Jerry