I've no idea and hope some kind soul can help

Spidercat

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Feb 19, 2019
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Nealh was saying the Samsung 26F cells may only last a couple of years but you would be saving £350 - split transport costs of the other bike. All there other Dutch inspired bikes on the 241 are very heavy 29.6kg using lifepo4 . Verona maybe;)
Yes Scott I like the Verona/Milano but I don't think they are on that deal, I think it's the Liberty/Safari which, as you say, are quite heavy.
Mandy
 

Eagle

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Aug 31, 2012
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Mandy,
Since Brighton Ebikes is on your doorstep, they must be worth a visit just to gen up on ebikes and see/try some in the flesh:
https://www.brightonebikes.co.uk/
There is no obligation to buy or have a conversion done by them. I am sure that a visit will be most informative and you can then concentrate on your exact requirements for riding on your local terrain.
 

Spidercat

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Feb 19, 2019
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Mandy,
Since Brighton Ebikes is on your doorstep, they must be worth a visit just to gen up on ebikes and see/try some in the flesh:
https://www.brightonebikes.co.uk/
There is no obligation to buy or have a conversion done by them. I am sure that a visit will be most informative and you can then concentrate on your exact requirements for riding on your local terrain.
Yes Eagle,
you are right (as always!) I know I need to try some but I'm just trying to get as much theoretical research as possible in first! Knowledge is power and all that..
Mandy
 

Nealh

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The Sonata battery is 10.4ah so will have 40 cells inside with 10 x 4 parallel groups to get 36v, the 4 cells in parallel give the ah of the battery so each cell is 2.6ah.
Samsung make the 2.6ah cell in a few versions 26F, 26H & 26J, there is little to choose between them and are much a like. My 26F was 13ah and lasted about 20 months before I saw capacity loss/range reducing for my use, 17a max current draw and up to 24mph. From new 45miles after 20 months about 30- 35 miles. The battery was used for best part of another year before I decided range was enough for me so the battery cells was broken up and I mad some 12v booster packs for my 36v batteries for 48v use.
2 years may possibly be the max the battery will give 95/100% range/mileage before you see decrease happening /capacity loss, it may be less with hilly Brighton.
 

Eagle

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Mandy,
In Alton, Hants there is this 44cm Pulse ZL2 (50 miles in 8 months):

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-Bike-Pulse-ZL2-Loop-Frame/123672013752?hash=item1ccb6d2bb8:g:u1QAAOSwHSdcRB1x:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

https://ebiketips.road.cc/content/reviews/electric-city-bikes/first-ride-pulse-zl-2-455

Since this was previously available from Halfords at £600, I think the seller is optimistic:

https://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/hybrid-bikes/pulse-zl2-electric-hybrid-bike-44-48cm-frames

Note the not so inspiring 8.8ah, 380Wh battery, twist shift and hub brakes:
https://www.rutlandcycling.com/bikes/electric-bikes/pulse-zl-2-2017-electric-hybrid-bike-black_374561?currency=GBP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImd7Xwp_m4AIVaTPTCh3BXghkEAYYASABEgIs7PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I know you are looking for a stepthrough, but just look at the quality and spec of this FreeGo Eagle compared to the Pulse:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Freego-Eagle-Electric-Bike/273740120226?hash=item3fbc2ec0a2:g:01IAAOSwIz5celQB:rk:4:pf:1&frcectupt=true
It also has a higher powered 562Wh 15.6ah battery (the more recent shorter length one with Samsung cells). It appears that the bike has been used regularly and almost certainly its battery will have lots more life in it.

I doubt if this FreeGo Hawk will get a bid at £250:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Freego-Eagle-Electric-Bike/202607105535?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=2&asc=20160323102634&meid=136b385464d84779984eb4b7b8c44741&pid=100623&rk=2&rkt=6&sd=273740120226&itm=202607105535&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

There is real value there, even allowing £300 for a new battery from Insat.

Keep on looking!
 
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Dewey

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Decathlon Coventry sell the B-Twin Elops step over, the 24v 500E model is six hundred and fifty while the more powerful 36v 900E model is a grand. Having ridden a 24v hub motor the lower power version is suited for fairly flat areas, it won't be powerful enough for proper hill climbing for which a 36v Motor would be better, but you can get up to 15mph on level ground with 24v.
 
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StillFindingMyWay

Finding my (electric) wheels
Feb 27, 2019
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Hi all. Where to start? Well, firstly a very big thank you to all of those who have helped me in my search. Eagle and Nealh, you two have been particular superstars but everyone who has replied has really helped me narrow down my choice and help me find exactly what I want.

Well, I think I have it. I have managed to pick up a 2nd hand electric bike on ebay. It's a juicy bike and they seem to have good reviews. https://www.juicybike.co.uk/electric-bikes/classic-click-dutch-style-electric-bicycle.
The seller had only tried it once after he purchased it and decided it wasn't for him. So I managed to secure it for just over £700 and it has an upgraded battery too.

I've just collected it today. A bit of a mission as we had to collect it, so I've not tried it yet but it looks immaculate. I will let you know.

Thank all again for your help and support. I couldn't have done it without you!
 

Eagle

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SFMW,
Well done. You got there eventually.
I am sure that Spidercat will find a suitable ebike soon.
We look forward to hearing about your Juicy bike.
 
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