Kalkhoff Agattu on eBay

[iaing]

Hello

Just spotted this. Seems an amazing bargain. Yes, I know that means you should be very cautious. But worth a look for anyone in the area. It is for collection only so condition could be checked.

I hasten to add that I am not connected in any way to the seller and have no knowledge of the seller or bike other than the listing.

Kalkhoff agattu on eBay (end time 07-Nov-09 15:30:44 GMT)

Iain

 

[flecc]

It does seem a good price, but it could be almost two years old since they were first sold in November 2007 at around £1100. If so, the best of the £395 battery life has gone so the £795 isn't quite as remarkable as it first looks.

Another influence is the current pricing, although listed at £1595, some sizes are being sold at £1495 and £1395 to clear 2009 stock.
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[HarryB]

I think the price is average and has been around a few days now and not sold yet. I sold my Agattu for £771 and it was as new with a six month old battery. Now that was a bargain for somebody.

 

[Cyclezee]

It can't be 2 years old yet, I ordered a diamomnd frame Agattu at the end of January 2008, but it was a couple of months before they started arriving in the UK. Therefore it can only be 18 months old at the worst and with only 28 miles on the clock, it could be a real bargain if the seller is genuine. The battery should be OK, because of the 'hibernation' mode when not in use.

J hn

 

[flecc]

with only 28 miles on the clock, it could be a real bargain if the seller is genuine.

And that's the question! The constant flow of e-bikes appearing on ebay with claims of only 28 miles, only 10 miles, only used twice etc never ceases to amaze. I don't think our population is so wealthy that so many can spend well over a thousand pounds on an e-bike, not use it and then often not bother to try to sell it until long after when it's lost more value.

Very, very rarely one of these may be genuine, but in most cases I'd give the statement no credence without a personal examination by someone able to judge the true status.
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[themutiny]

I agree with Flecc. A healthy dose of scepticism is needed with these type of transactions. One interesting point in the sellers favour though is the 100% feedback rating, which is rare for >100 transactions.

 

[HarryB]

Very, very rarely one of these may be genuine, but in most cases I'd give the statement no credence without a personal examination by someone able to judge the true status.
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I agree although I bought a ebike on the cycle to work scheme and hated it - I still managed to put on a few hundred miles on it before selling. Still had to wait a year to sell it legally (not that anybody would have known).

 

[Django]

The 100% positive feedback from a long standing member convinces me that the seller is genuine. Not my sort of bike, being a Panasonic system, but if I were interested I would ask one or two questions regarding where it came from and seek to trust him. A serial number and a call to 50cycles might also verify the status of the bike.

I don't think it is a astonishing bargain, but certainly very fairly priced indeed and could make an excellent purchase for somebody.

 

[Cyclezee]

My advice is quite simple, ask questions. As Django says, ask for the serial number and check it's provenance with 50cycles. Ask if you can collect, pay cash rather than PayPal. Ask for actual photos of the bike. Ask if you can test ride it. Ask to do the battery test to see how many amps it will deliver. A genuine seller will not be offended by these questions.
Then if you don't like what you see when you go to collect, don't hand over any money, just walk away.

J hn

 

[Bigbee]

I agree with Flecc. A healthy dose of scepticism is needed with these type of transactions. One interesting point in the sellers favour though is the 100% feedback rating, which is rare for >100 transactions.

erm,Have a look at the feed backs,theyre all from his/hers purchases.The bike looks like his only sales.Why buy an expensive bike and sell it after 28 miles??This smells a little to me

 

[flecc]

erm,Have a look at the feed backs,theyre all from his/hers purchases.The bike looks like his only sales.Why buy an expensive bike and sell it after 28 miles??This smells a little to me

That was my thought exactly, like all these claims it defies logic.
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[Pedalo]

erm,Have a look at the feed backs,theyre all from his/hers purchases.The bike looks like his only sales.Why buy an expensive bike and sell it after 28 miles??This smells a little to me

Most of the recent feedback is from purchases but there is some older feedback from sales also. I wouldn't be so concerned by this - Most of my ebay feedback is also from purchases because I tend to buy lots of small items but only sell big ones from time to time.

If I was interested in this bike and lived nearby I'd ask to go and see it first.

 

[tigeravenger]

The 28 mile claim seems to be the default

That was my thought exactly, like all these claims it defies logic.
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I agree, reminds me of the Powacycle I bought off e bay with the mandatory 28 miles only, surprise surprise the battery was duff, can make for an expensive purchase...
Although I hope I have been lucky with my friendly Robotics supplier sending me the Li-ion battery to power it with ..

 

[iaing]

Klakhoff Agattu on eBay

Please see this thread, too.

Iain

(Now glad I pointed out I had no connection with bike or seller)

http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/electric-bicycles/4944-agattu-ebay.html