Navigation issues

Gubbins

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I have been a member of this forum for some time now and this subject has been aired several times, so rather than ask for advice or what others do I am just recounting my experience with a Garmin Edge 1000 Explore.
Up till now it has been robust and done what I wanted.. but yesterday I downloaded a gpx file for the Morcambe Bay Cycleway which is an 80 miles trail/cycle friendly road route from Glasson Dock to Barrow in Furness... 80 miles you say? Yes well not all at one go...
I edited the route to s new start point at Caton, uploaded to the Garmin and today off we went . This is the first time I have used it in this way and to begin with all seemed well with us riding on cycleway, canal and a few short road sections we navigated Lancaster and morecambe and Carnforth until we stopped for lunch which immediately exposed the devices shortcomings. The slight detour from the route gave an "off course" message and no amount of cajoling, fiddling or restarting would get it back on track, or even a direction where the track was, in fact it was about 10 miles down the road that it finally reengaged with the course. I expected some sort of redirection to get back on track but all it showed was the last junction where we deviated for food and the stock off course message.
In this instance this cycleway is well signposted so it didn't matter but I am less inclined to trust it on another out of town ride and will have to find another solution.
As said i am not looking for advice on navigation as quite by accident we found something else that I will explore later..
just sharing.
 

soundwave

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yet we landed on the moon in 1969 yeah *******! ever think the gps is coming from the Mobil phone towers and not satellites in space.?

 
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soundwave

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self driving cars will need 5g towers everywhere to work and send the data online at super high speed.

problem is them things are classed as microwave weapons the amount of radiation they will pump out at close range.
 
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Gubbins

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self driving cars will need 5g towers everywhere to work and send the data online at super high speed.

problem is them things are classed as microwave weapons the amount of radiation they will pump out at close range.
Will that make my hair grow back... and will it be straight or curly?
 

Barrio Barranco

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5g seems well dodgy, make a call and ten towers can target your phone held close to your brain and zap....fried....!!
 

MikeS

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Its why I ditched my Garmin Zumo for my motorbike. Too many times it got really confusing if I went off the route. Usually it wanted me to start the route again (but I later found there's an option to avoid it doing that). But far too often it would for no reason want me to go off a foreign motorway into a small town then back to the motorway (and these towns were definitely NOT waypoints.
I use copilot on my iphone 8plus now - and opencyclemap in viewranger for cycling
Mike
 

Gubbins

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Its why I ditched my Garmin Zumo for my motorbike. Too many times it got really confusing if I went off the route. Usually it wanted me to start the route again (but I later found there's an option to avoid it doing that). But far too often it would for no reason want me to go off a foreign motorway into a small town then back to the motorway (and these towns were definitely NOT waypoints.
I use copilot on my iphone 8plus now - and opencyclemap in viewranger for cycling
Mike
I am exploring a different route. It seems like its possible to use layers on Google maps to build up a tour. On our Garmin unfriendly ride we reverted to Google Maps which quickly found and easily navigated to and on cycle route 69 on quiet roads and some tracks. Too many other things to deal with tight now but I am thinking phone in saddlebags with one wireless ear bud for the voice prompts (G.M. is good at this) and off we go.
I must say I am disappointed by the performance of my edge 100 explore
 

vfr400

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The free Google navigation is hard to beat. When ser to cycling, it will find and use aĺthe normal cycle paths and routes. When you turn off the road onto a cycle path, it even gives you a photo of what you're loking for. It'll automatically re-route you if you deviate from the planned route.

In a car or on a motorbike, it has one feature that the others can't match. It permanently monitors the speed of the traffic on your route and alternative routes, and it'll give you the option of updating the route every time it finds a faster one.

Can anyone tell me how Google Navigation can predict your journey time with so much accuracy, when it doesn't know how fast you want to drive and it can't possibly know what's going to happen during a three hour journey? It always seems to get the time right within a few minutes.