Park Tool Cyclone Chain Scrubber on BBSxx?

[Fordulike]

I'm glad you asked that Croxden as I thought I must be missing something. This product seems like the ultimate magic potion, able to remove all the gunge from the visible chain parts without encroaching the innards so leaving the manufacturer's grease intact. Brilliant if that's what happens!

It just shouts 'Snake oil' to me but I believe the cancer scientists are close to finding cures that work exactly like that. Obviously, I can't be understanding this correctly.

Tom

I was just merely suggesting, that if you wanted to follow KMC's instructions by not using a solvent to clean the chain, then that particular cleaner doesn't contain solvents.
Of course it's going to strip the innards of grease too!

In reality, KMC are really implying not to remove all factory grease with any solution, and the instructions were likely written before the non solvent cleaners were available

And also before the latest generation of chain lubes too.

 

[Tomtomato]

I keep saying, over 5000 miles just keeping it clean and no problems. I have used a wax lube recently, the chain is as flexible as ever.

Past bikes have had all sorts of oils, they stiffen up and wear out the chains and cogs.

How good are the salesmen? Brilliant.

Not clear what you are actually saying, sorry.

Do you clean your chains with such device and degreaser, then use wax lube, and keep your chains going for long that way?

Salesmen are brilliant because they sell those devices and liquids??

 

[Croxden]

Not clear what you are actually saying, sorry.

Do you clean your chains with such device and degreaser, then use wax lube, and keep your chains going for long that way?

Salesmen are brilliant because they sell those devices and liquids??

When the ride has caused the bike to get dirty I get a cloth and give the chain a good rub down. If it has rained a light spray with GT 85 to remove the wet but in principal a clean rag will polish the chain, the original wax lube remains within the links.

Not having anything on the chain for road dirt to stick to stops a build-up of wearing crud.

A freshly cleaned and oiled chain looks good I admit and in a closed environment would be a good idea but a bike is anything but unless you have the old totally enclosed chain guard.

Riding the other day with someone with an oiled chain had me cringing when the dirt of the track was grinding away on his chain. I said nothing.

 

[oldtom]

When some people are prepared to spend as much as 5K or even more on an EAPC, I can't see the point in any forensic analysis of bicycle chains, lubricants and cleaning potions. If it were the case that replacement chains cost £100 or more and only lasted a couple of thousand miles, I could probably understand but having checked out prices at a major online bike store, chains are relatively cheap.

We know from contributions on this topic previously that some chains can last for thousands of miles with little or no maintenance so a replacement chain and associated gears shouldn't break the bank when the need arises. A complete drivetrain works out cheaper than an oil and filter change at my car's franchised dealer and that's every 12 months.

Tyres, tubes, brakes, cables and gearset components have always been regarded as consumables in bicycle ownership so we shouldn't get too anal about best practice maintenance of a component which costs the same as a few pints of beer.

Tom

 

[Hugh]

I've started using 2 chain cleaners. One is filled with Muc-off, then chain is given a good wipe with a towel before running it through another cleaner containing hypoid gear oil. That also needs to be wiped properly afterwards, but it does seem to ensure that chain gets both properly cleaned and also lubed.
The chain cleaners came from Lidl and were a fiver or so.