Professional bike converters?

allen-uk

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Just another option in my quest to find the right electric bike:

are there any firms which take in your own conventional bike and turn it into an electric bike?

Not so much for the price, which I assume would be a lot less than off-the-shelf models, as for weight, and because I quite like my bike at the moment. (An aside: why the heck are electric bikes SO heavy? I know the battery is about 3kg, but can a motor weigh that much?)

Allen.
 

eddieo

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Andrew Harvey who posts on here knows his stuff, and has his own bike shop and is very experienced with kits:)
 

HarryB

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Once Bionx have established themselves in this country you should be able to take your bike to a shop to be converted for a very reasonable £100. The kit weighs in at about 5kg.
 
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allen-uk

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Andrew seems to be located in Wyre Forest, which is a lovely place, but a bit of a trek from NW London.

Is that East St Cycles of Farnham? (Getting closer). What did they do to your bike, Psycosis? And what sort of bike was it to start with?

Thanks for the help, by the way.


Allen.


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eddieo

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Andrew seems to be located in Wyre Forest, which is a lovely place, but a bit of a trek from NW London.
Allen.
use a courier...plenty of cheap ones on ebay
 

allen-uk

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Flecc: thanks for that link, looks just the job.

eddieo: plenty of cheap whats on ebay? While on the 'cheap' subject, I really don't mind paying the money for the right bike, and if that's £1500+, so be it. Three weeks ago I didn't really know electric bikes existed, so you'll have to excuse my searching for all the options!

Allen.
 

Psycosis

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Allen,

East St in Walton on Thames
I gave them a box of bits and said please fit this for me, but quote it up front so i don't get a nasty shock.

I did however have a cyclone kit fitted so no messing with the spokes.
They had to mount the motor, get the chain the right length, fit the new gear related bits and the crank and fitted the throttle and run all the wires.

Overall they were helpful and did it within 2 days.

The only thing they didn't mount was the controller, but thats fine because i stick it in a bag.
 

allen-uk

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Thanks eddieo, psycosis. Great assistance, as usual.



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allen-uk

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Another thought, which I hope members here can help me on:

Why choose an off-the-shelf model when you could (fairly) easily get your ordinary bike electrified? What are the advantages of a Wisper, a Kalkhoff, or whatever, over an ordinary bike with a motor and battery attached?


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flecc

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Why choose an off-the-shelf model when you could (fairly) easily get your ordinary bike electrified? What are the advantages of a Wisper, a Kalkhoff, or whatever, over an ordinary bike with a motor and battery attached?
The neat and sensibly balanced inclusion of the battery bulk and weight into the design.

The extra strength built in to cope with the extra weight and stresses of e-power.

The bicycle component specifications to suit the weight and performance, such as tyres, brakes etc.

The ease of dealing with warranty and subsequent maintenance issues.
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timidtom

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Another thought, which I hope members here can help me on:

Why choose an off-the-shelf model when you could (fairly) easily get your ordinary bike electrified? What are the advantages of a Wisper, a Kalkhoff, or whatever, over an ordinary bike with a motor and battery attached?


Allen.
We have a tandem sitting quietly in the shed waiting for a conversion to electric power. Nobody here in Cheshire seems able to undertake the work. Why go electric? Ask the nasty litlle hills which lie on the road on either side of our house! Two creaking pensioners (with creaky hearts!) can't get up enough steam to ride out in either direction. This half of the partnership has ten thumbs and bodged so many jobs over the last seventy years he's not allowed to touch tools ever again, certainly not with finniky things like wires and switches. So far we haven't found a convincing ready-made tandem fitted with an electric outboard ...
 

flecc

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So far we haven't found a convincing ready-made tandem fitted with an electric outboard ...
This any good? Panasonic powered BikeTec Swiss Flyer, sport motor with 1.5 times assist and high cadence allowed. Expensive though.

To see the tech details etc, use this link and click the Tandem button at the left.
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allen-uk

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The neat and sensibly balanced inclusion of the battery bulk and weight into the design.

The extra strength built in to cope with the extra weight and stresses of e-power.

The bicycle component specifications to suit the weight and performance, such as tyres, brakes etc.

The ease of dealing with warranty and subsequent maintenance issues.
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Thanks flecc, that neatly puts my more muddled thinking into better order.


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nab

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Another thought, which I hope members here can help me on:

Why choose an off-the-shelf model when you could (fairly) easily get your ordinary bike electrified? What are the advantages of a Wisper, a Kalkhoff, or whatever, over an ordinary bike with a motor and battery attached?
good question. i think we are going through the same selection process allen.

in terms of new bike versus conversion....

from my research so far, it seems to that if you want a serious bike for really extended, proper use that you can rely on then you have to spend at least £1600. If money isn't an option and you need a new bike anyway then it's probably a no brainer.

but if money is an issue and you already have a decent bike then the Alien kit conversions seem like a really good option. they do have one year warranty i see. but the by-product of installing the kit yourself seems to me that you are probably improving your own chances of being able to troubleshoot any minor problems that do occur, which seems advantageous.

if money isn't an issue and you have a decent bike already then converting seems to be a not too expensive shot at an electric bike which could ultimately be a great success! it's definitely appears a more risky thing to do than buying new but then again sometimes things just work out really well don't they? if money really isn't an option then you could try the conversion and if it doesn't go that well, then buy a new one afterwards. i reckon though it helps if you want to get more into the mechanical maintenance of bikes.

a brand new e-bike is also going to attract more light fingered attention than an old bike with odd looking racks and bits and bobs on it. handy depending on where you go with your bike.

overall though, it seems that it's all about how much you're going to use it and whether it encourages you to get out on the road with it.

hmmm.........:confused: decisions decisions
 

allen-uk

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Interesting chain of thought, Nab, and I can see parallels with my own muddled wanderings.

I'm no lottery winner, so money IS an issue, as ever, but on the other hand over many misspent decades I've wasted loads of dosh trying to save it, and looking back it's been the times when I've bitten the bullet and paid the piper (excuse all the metaphors, I'm an ex alcoholic of 8yrs 6mths standing, and brain still a bit liquid), they've been the times of greatest success (or luck, if you will).

Wouldn't it be nice to have loads of money and just buy things to see if they worked?


Allen.
 

Stumpi

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As I see it and this is just my opinion :D there are a few people out there who build their own kit cars. Firstly they have at least a basic knowledge of mechanics but perhaps more importantly a love of tinkering(sometimes more than driving). They source a donor vehicle, buy the kit, spend countless evenings building the thing until one day it emerges from the garage. Some are a thing of beauty and run like a dream, others need constant attention and never quite perform how they should.

Most people however leave car building to the experts and buy something pre built. Generally you can find something for your budget whether its new or second hand.

If you love tinkering, have a basic knowledge of cycle mechanics and some general electrical know how. Buy a kit and have ago yourself

If you just want to get out there and cycle then something from one of the well known and respected companies should fit the bill.

Paying a cycle shop to build a kit bike sounds fine but I suspect beyond the first 2 weeks any issues or adjustments would be chargeable