Unrestricted Forte

AndyR

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I have been looking into how to derestrict my Forte and have read the article on how to do it by ammending the wiring near the bottom bracket. My new Forte seems to have the wiring loom as described in the article, but from what I have read later models of the Forte should not have this capability/type of loom. Has the original style wiring loom been readopted?

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flecc

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Yes Andy. There's been some past unpredictability in the way bikes have been received, partly due to availability of components, so I understand both F series recently reverted to the original specifications.
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AndyR

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Jan 18, 2008
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Thanks for that. I thought the wiring looked just like the photo on your web page.

AndyR
 

AndyR

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Jan 18, 2008
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Derestricted Forte

Have finally got around to derestricting my Forte. The top speed now seems to be around 21mph. What a change it has made to the bike! What do you think the implications will be on the range per charge? I may look at wiring in a switch to control the derestriction as and when I want to use it
 

flecc

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That speed is about right Andy. On the original Torq, derestricting did cut the range considerably, some finding it as much as halved, but for me it was about 40% less.

There might also be implications for the battery life, which could now shorten.
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stokepa31_mk2

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Yes Andy. There's been some past unpredictability in the way bikes have been received, partly due to availability of components, so I understand both F series recently reverted to the original specifications.
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Do you think this is paving the way for the derestriction of the torq to be reinstated too Flecc. It would not surprise me as this was a key selling point of the bike prevously and this new company will want every advantage it can get.

Regards
Paul
 

burncycle

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One of the other makers bikes has a "off-road" button which adjusts this.
Its a neat legal/non-legal was to get around this problem.
 

flecc

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Do you think this is paving the way for the derestriction of the torq to be reinstated too Flecc. It would not surprise me as this was a key selling point of the bike prevously and this new company will want every advantage it can get.

Regards
Paul
I don't know Paul, but agree it was key to the Torq's success. Mind you, it's hill climbing used to be very poor, but is vastly improved on the new lower speed setup on Torq 2, and we won't be going exactly back to how it was simply because the motor has been changed now.

I'll let you know if I find out something more on this, but the last Wai Won said on this matter was quite unequivocal:

"I like to clear an issue here.

1) In a conflict of interest between what customer or the market likes and what is legal. eZee takes the legal way, this is absolutely essential for long term consideration."
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stokepa31_mk2

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"I like to clear an issue here.

1) In a conflict of interest between what customer or the market likes and what is legal. eZee takes the legal way, this is absolutely essential for long term consideration."
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Yes I recall that post Tony. For me, the Torq is as fast as I need and I regularly cruise at 20mph on the flat so I'd rather have the hill climbing ability.

I'm off to research a replacement left crank and pedals now as mine has had an argument with the thread on the pedal. Following pedal removal the crank has no thread left. Not sure what happened there as I check for tightness weekly!

oh well at least its more experience of tinkering which is always fun :)

Regards
Paul
 

flecc

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That's a pity Paul, but thank goodness it's the left hand and not the spider one that's gone. You might find 50cycles have one in stock, they've normally had every spare I've asked for.
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AndyR

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Jan 18, 2008
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Derestricted Forte

I've been using my recently destricted Forte to commute to work. I live in a very hilly area. The bike will now climb quite long steep hills (with a reasonable input from me) at around 15 mph whereas before with the same pedal effort I'd maybe be doing about 10mph. I haven't been able to assess the overall effect on range as I only have to travel about 5/6 miles to work and a full charge gets me there and back without problem. What I am seeing now is the red light coming on when I climb hills at speed. I view this as a power demand light rather than a "fuel gauge". What I am thinking of doing is incorporating a switch in the set up so that I can switch the derestriction on and off. My thoughts are that I might switch the derestriction off when I am climbing long steep hills when the temptation is to travel at higher speed with high demand on the battery and resolve myself to travelling slightly more slowly but conserving power. Then once on more level ground I could derestrict the machine and make up time without putting undue demand on the battery. Does this sound feasible?
 

flecc

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Yes that's perfectly reasonable Andy, many members do already have an added derestrict switch on their eZee bikes. As you say though, restricting on hills does have some speed penalty.
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