"Voyager"

Alex728

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Dec 16, 2008
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looks like a strong contender against the Wisper 905SE City..

I would rather sacrifice speed for range - mind you I have moved away from city areas like London and Reading to a place where some people have stickers in their cars saying "Don't rush me, I'm from Suffolk" :D
 
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Cyclezee

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Bob's photos do show the nice build quality and finish of the bike, something that is missing from many Chinese bikes. I particularly like the clean unclutered lines.
720 Cycles could be on to a winner if it proves reliable. There is no reason why it shouldn't as they are using a proven motor and battery.

If I were 720 Cycles I would ask Bob if they could use some of his photos and report in their eBay auction. The low quality monochrome ones they are using do not do it justice.

J:) hn
 

720 Cycles

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Aug 31, 2008
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Aldby - Great minds think alike

We will be calling Bob in the new year to ask if we can use his report on our new website and also E Bay shop :D :D
 

Blew it

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Jun 8, 2008
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Flattered as I am, that would cause a problem with the description of the listing. In fitting the mudguards, Voyager was extensively "Bobified", including handmade stainless steel brackets to keep the mudguard stay eyes away from the brake calipers. Even the "Venturer" carrier stays were shortened to allow use of the weld-on seatstay lugs. If used as supplied, the carrier deck would have been far too high to look right.

By the way, the name Voyager was not entirely original as at least two forum members will know. What I've actually done, is copy the "look" from a photo sent to me some weeks ago. Perhaps we need to wait and see what the main production run will look like.....and then remember where you saw it first.

All the best

Bob
 

720 Cycles

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Aug 31, 2008
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New Model

We will be looking at releasing a model with the mudguards you have added and have to admit it looks rather good.

Maybe we could call this model Bobified :) :)
 

Alex728

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Dec 16, 2008
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don't forget the rack, these are big selling points to commuters!

perhaps 720cycles should employ Bob as a freelance engineer to oversee a "commuter" version with a decent rack/mudguards?
 

Blew it

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Jun 8, 2008
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Steady now!

Flattered as I am, the reality is I've done my fifty years of service to industry.....now it's playtime!.

People to see....places to go ....things to do.

Have a good New Year.

Bob
 

dazzie

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Jul 16, 2008
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Thanks as always Bob, she's a smart looking bike for sure. I'm glad you squeezed in a remark about the Mistral too or I'd have been regretting not getting the 720 bike...

Daz
 

wibble

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Aug 9, 2008
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A very nice looking bike!. I would seriously consider one if I didn't already have a Wisper. I especially love the chunky tyres on it.
 

Blew it

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Thanks as always Bob, she's a smart looking bike for sure. I'm glad you squeezed in a remark about the Mistral too or I'd have been regretting not getting the 720 bike...

Daz
Daz,

You shouldn't allow any doubts to cloud your enjoyment of the Synergie Mistral. I would add, none of the machines I own stands in the shadow of the others, not even the bright yellow Alien Lynx folder now looking rather splendid with full length shiny black mudguards (hated the beavertails supplied).

Every single one of the machines has something that might require "refinement" in the eyes of some riders....to me, they are simply characteristics of the breed and define each machines individuality. They all provide, without exception, a most enjoyable riding experience.

All the Best

Bob
 

dazzie

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Jul 16, 2008
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Thanks Bob. You're right, each bike has their pros and cons - I was able to get the Mistral and a spare battery for virtually the same price as the 720 bike so I should be very happy.

Still, the Voyager looks very nice indeed...

Regards,

Daz
 

stonefish

Finding my (electric) wheels
Dec 18, 2008
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fun bike

hi ya bob...
thought i would post these pictures of a lock for my bike...think it looks good with the lines of the bike...a quick report on the bike ...after using it every day for the past month to do a 8 mile commute...in the cold and rain....no problems at all...climbs up hills great.....get just over 20 miles on throttle only....i know im lazy and dont pedal at all....great investment for the price...and im still looking into derestricting the top speed...any ideas darren??....but all in all a great bike that has generated a lot of interest as you free wheel past people going up hill...

jeff
 

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Danny-K

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Aug 25, 2008
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As always, positive owner reviews are the most persuasive, which no commission-salesman can hope to match.

Have either of you, (Bob & Stonefish), yet discovered the maximum mileage capacity from pedalling only, in mixed terrain? From the foregoing I'd guess very high 20's to 30+ miles, yes/no?
 

Blew it

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Jun 8, 2008
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Jeff and Danny,

Lets start with the maximum possible speed. The motor is NOT restricted as such, but the maximum amps draw is set by the controller at 15. I found it very easy to pedal the machine up to 18 mph without using the throttle, at which point the power assist was beginning to phase down. The cadence at 18 mph was a little too fast for me to sustain for much more than a mile, this will be addressed by fitting a new cluster with a 13 tooth high gear. When this is done, I will be able to maintain a steady 16-17 mph without using the throttle. That is the speed at which the machine appears happiest.

Jeff, how on earth do you keep warm without pedalling?.

The range. Until such time as the mercury reappears on the scale, or at least 10 degrees C, then the range will be guesswork. My feeling is the designers have reached a very happy balance between reasonable speed, good hill climbing and a decent range. As soon as the balmy Southwesterlies return I'll start riding again and find out.

I'm currently investigating (in a nice warm kitchen) the cause of the "spongy" brakes on the 905 GTS. One thing I can tell you.....it's not the cables!!. Yesterday, I fitted the Goodrich cables already tested by several forum members, the improvement was so dissapointing I started looking at other causes. So far, I've discovered three areas that need further testing. One test will require setting up a dial guage on part of the frame, The other two tests involve replacing two components with alternatives saved from a recently dismantled machine. More about that later.

All the best

Bob
 
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eddieo

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Jul 7, 2008
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Jeff, these AXA style locks if that is what you have....are all over you tube as being easy to open (with a pen top). It is best practice to use two locks anyway.
 

Mussels

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Jun 17, 2008
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I'm currently investigating (in a nice warm kitchen) the cause of the "spongy" brakes on the 905 GTS. One thing I can tell you.....it's not the cables!!. Yesterday, I fitted the Goodrich cables already tested by several forum members, the improvement was so dissapointing I started looking at other causes. So far, I've discovered three areas that need further testing. One test will require setting up a dial guage on part of the frame, The other two tests involve replacing two components with alternatives saved from a recently dismantled machine. More about that later.
When you pull the brake lever do you see the disk move sideways at all?