Steb

you seem to live in a very small corner that's all about personal attack and trolling. in my experience that is not representative of the UK, which is really why I am here. You are also getting more inappropriate and personal than I think is healthy. I will ignore you until you've regained some composure, perhaps you'll be more able to then have an adult, informed conversation about brexit.

nah..I'm not feeding trolls today ;>)

well, evidently with bipeds like you, I have a mission here to enlighten..

but you do insist on making personal attacks. trolling is probably more accurate. that is rather boring. call me an optimist, but I had hoped for something a bit more intellectually challenging, even from a brexit baboon..

ermmm...have you had your medication?

you make many completely unfounded assumptions. You don't have any idea who the couple were. Your caricature of Mansfield is unfair. On the plus side, your deductive process provides insight into how brexit happened.

I can, and do know it. I've lived in the uk twenty years, and started with very little. I have had children here, and know more than my fair share about state schools. Using the relatively privileged background to account for brexit voters' unbelievable stupidity is at best an act of denial, at worst subterfuge.

I'm afraid they're not the noble savages you would like to believe. Many supported farage, ukip, are more than just a little racist, xenophobic. By choice, the UK is for now still a place of opportunity, where education and background are very poor excuses indeed for ruining ones own and others lives via making stupid choices

There is a simple solution that, dare I say it, doesn't involve any of the brexit infused xenophobic fantasies you seem to be nurturing. Remain part of the EU,allow free movement,in a union that prevents exploitation, racism. But of course that would involve giving up all those imperial fantasies about being special

"generous and welcoming"? more "greedy and self obsessed". we drain deprived communities around the world of health care professionals (by luring them with money developing countries cannot offer)so we don't have to pay to train our own (and are happy to let their dependents drown in the med).

not really. your attempt to not respond to what I wrote, deflect from the argument has more in common with butterfly collecting.

Well, most brexiters I speak to are happy to have nurses from the third world. Very happy to deprive already severely deprived communities of the health care they have. That's neither ethical, nor very enlightened (perhaps it has something to do with a history of being a parasitic empire).

I was in the same position and would triple check that range, a 40 kwh Zoe does at most 120 miles in winter and, to avoid developing generalised anxiety disorder, one has to leave 20% or so for emergencies. Summer will of course be further, but I'd end up doing 140 miles on eco if I had to do it in a Zoe, which, really, wouldn't be fun. The economics of owning an ev is funny, if you live in London near a tesla fast charger and buy, say, a three year old s, it's free to use (and really a quick 30min coffee to charge and can be had for about twice the price of a battery owned zoe

they are bit part players in a pretty impressive production that's about much more than trade - free movement of people, skill, resources (allowing profitable joint ventures like airbus). there's much more at stake than short term pain, profit

that would have been a knockout on the side of the bus ("brexit is - like quantum tunnelling - about crossing a barrier you shouldn't normally be able to cross").