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Ah, that was my final question. I could automate this using the Tasker app on my phone, so in theory I could just click one button to arm it and another to disarm it.

I have zero knowledge of this kind of thing Stuart, but it sounds like the kid of thing I would need. Ideally, I would just want: - No GPS, No alarm - Press a button when I park my bike - Motion sensor kicks in when someone tries to steal it - Alert gets sent via LoRa to a small receiver I keep on my person. - As small as possible to strap under the seat or make it look like a fake water bottle etc. - No faffing with SIM's, rear lights, recharging frequently etc. I will keep an eye on your site and find someone locally who can build something like this for me!

This was what I was looking for originally, just something that sent an SMS, so no mobile data or subscription costs etc. I assume you would need credit on the SIM though (which is fine) but does this expire if it's not used within a certain time?

This is EXACTLY the kind of thing I was looking for, being a new paranoid bright blue Orbea ebike owner! I leave my bike at a gym approx 150 metres away for up to 90 mins. When I went to purchase a alarm/notification device, I naturally assumed that there would be some way of alerting my phone or similar if the bike was nudged, probably via a free PAYG phone SIM. Turns out that there are devices which are expensive, but they all have a monthly fee for notifications. Your device looks simple and straightforward and uses a notification technology I wasn't aware of. I wasn't even interested in an alarm to be honest, just the movement notification. If you ever produce something to sell with no monthly costs, surely it will be a massive winner???!! I will be all over it for starters.

Perfect! Thanks for that, this seems to work!

I have a new Orbea Vibe H10. It has the tiny 'iwoc' controller with no display, just a rough battery light. I hookup my phone via bluetooth and run the MAHLE app and it shows me power level, speed and remaining battery percentage. This is great, but of course when I load my Komoot navigation the MAHLE stuff dissapears and I can only see the speed. I see that Orbea produce an LCD display which shows all this (great!). It's about £80 (not great). The main issue with this is I think that it 'replaces' the superb mini iwoc controller which is a pain so it can no longer be used. I think the battery or controller has some kind of Ant+ technology that can be tapped into to get the speed/battery percentage and gear etc? Would there be any other navigation apps that could tap into this to save me buying a display and having to remove the iWoc controller? Thanks

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for that!

Perfect, thanks for this info. The 18 miles was actually accounting for range anxiety so hopefully get a slightly smaller/lighter/cheaper battery too. Essentially I want to do a 20-30 mile round trip every week, and use the battery on hills so perhaps will only use about 3-4 miles of the battery power.

The Swytch Max is 3.1Kg with the front wheel (1.5Kg), battery (1.1kg) and mount. Only 18 mile range, but perfect for me. I like this, but with delivery it's £574 and only available in 4-5 months. I want something similar weight/range wise but with a bottle battery instead. I can't seem to find anything that's this kind of weight. Other things I have seen are 6kg upwards. I like the idea of the bike not looking like an ebike when the bottle battery is removed, so can lockup safely. I don't mind a small controller. Any advice appreciated.

I converted a mid range hybrid a couple of years back with a Cyclotricity rear wheel kit and 36v/11aH rack battery. The bike runs fine, but is just about unusable when the battery is dead as it's simply too heavy. All the weight at the back isn't good either. Just found out that the rack battery and the rear wheel weighs a hefty10kg (probably not including the rack itself) I am about to convert a decent light hybrid and want the lightest solution with smallest amount of assist possible (10-15 miles or so). I see the https://www.cytronex.com/ front hub setup and small battery coming in at 3.6kg which is significantly lighter, but over £1000 for the conversion. Are there any similar products but slightly cheaper? Happy to have a front wheel drive or mid drive. I see this company at approx £700, but not available to buy yet. https://www.lightest.bike/SHOP/Lightest-250W-kit-with-battery-presales-p221067532 Thanks

Thanks, I am just using what was supplied by Cyclotricity, I have no idea about any of these kits. I naturally assumed that whatever they have sold me would unlock the 500W motor to it's full potential as advertised, but there is little difference after unlocked.

Their LCD is the KT-LCD1 (or that's what it says on the instructions) I will check the controller tonight. I am actually happy with the performance of the 250W motor, but struggled to see any difference with their supplied 500W upgrade kit despite their claims. I may just install the small LED display back which restricts to 250W and leave it like that.

Thanks for this. Their 250W/500W rear wheel drive kit is heavier than their 250W front drive kit, but their marketing speak suggests that there is much more power when the 500W kit is unlocked. I am going to convert another bike for a friend and wonder if I should just buy the lighter front 250W kit as I am not really seeing any power increase at all from their rear wheel drive kit 500W unlock. The 250W kit is cheaper, lighter and easier to install.

Hi all, I have a 250W/500W Cyclotricity rear wheel drive conversion and was impressed with the 250W power using the restricted LED. 16-17mph ish on a straight with throttle only. My partner never really needed more than power assist level 1 for PAS unless going up hill. Just unlocked to 500W and tried some speed testing multiple times on the same piece of road with slight incline. I was surprised to find 18mph top speed throttle only on both 250W and 500W and going back up the incline the 500W gave a 3mph improvement. I think I can notice a 'tiny' bit more power off the throttle from start, but should I be expecting more from a 500W unlock? Even at power assist level 5 I still need to put a reasonable amount of effort into peddling to keep at 19mph. Again, if this is normal and to be expected then I am happy with it, I think I was just expecting a bit more power from the 500W unlock. Thanks

Ah, didn't think of that regarding the throttle sticking on ;-) Yes, agreed, to be honest if I can swap the shifters I will just install the supplied brake levers with the cut offs. I will take a look for some shifters now. Thanks.

Just installed my 250W/500W kit and have integrated gear/brake levers on my 7 speed hybrid so can't install the brake levers/sensors that come with the kit to cut off the motor. FIRST QUESTION! I rode the bike for about 30 mins and can't really see the need for the brake sensors. When I need to brake, I naturally stop pedalling and the motor safely cuts out. I am guessing in an emergency I grab the brakes, but will always stop pedalling as a natural reaction. Am I missing something? Or is this just a safety add on that people don't install? SECOND QUESTION Because of my integrated 7 speed gear selectors the thumb throttle stops them from dropping down a gear as they are "thumb/index finger" controlled. I would like to replace the selectors so they are 'thumb only' and the up/down selectors are mounted underneath. Can I buy these separately or do I have to replace my rear gear deralier to match?

That was EXACTLY it!

Thanks all. Turns out that one of my drop outs needed filing as the axle wasn't quite in all the way. After doing this it aligned ok. Just tried my 250w/500w from Cyclotricity and get power to the LED, but nothing to the motor... now going to start troubleshooting. - I assume that the LED controller will allow throttle only, as I don't have the PAS setup - I assume that the brake sensors do NOT need to be installed for the motor to run

Hey Jim, I am just fitting my 500w Cyclotricity rear setup same as yours. I have managed to add enough washers for the cog to clear the frame but have noticed that my wheel is quite badly offset to the frame. Is yours the same? I have v-brakes and they don't line up because the wheel is not in the middle.

I have asked these of the Cyclotricity team but it looks as though they are too busy at the moment to answer which is fair enough. Thought I would get a quicker response from the forum! I would like to order my 250w/500w kit today ideally. - My brake levers are integrated into the gears shifters. Do they supply a sensor setup instead of a brake lever for their kits? - It's not clear if the LED handlebar setup is unable to unlock the 500w full power. The description on the kit suggests that the LCD can do this. - They give an option to buy a freewheel, but I already have one so assume this will fit (it's definintely not a cassette so should be fine) - They supply an 11Ah rack battery for £225 but don't say what sort it is. Is there are better value battery that may be compatible for a rack? - I think I can make a torque arm quite easily to save the £20.

See what you mean about the rack, I can weld so should be able to sort something permanent ;-) Thanks again.

Thank you for this, incredibly useful. I will check my front suspension forks later and make sure they are beefy enough. The price difference is negligable to be honest, so I may just go for the rear kit. I am not a big chap either.

That's really useful thank you! Yes, rack is decent. I can't understand why the frame battery is 100 euros more than the rack battery. Is the 36v 12ah battery sufficient at 159 euros? Or anything else recommended. I can't see why I would need anything bigger with a max of 15 miles each ride.

- I have a hybrid bike with rack, pad brakes, 700c wheels - Currently looking for a 'minor-moderate' assist solution so I can do up to 20 miles instead of 10, so minor hills. - No off road, just back roads. - Low budget Looking at Yose Power on ebay, they supply a front hub kit minus the battery for £175. They will shortly have some rear kits in stock (the rear being slightly higher power). Battery is an extra £159 that I can see. A total of around £330 all in which seems like a reasonably priced solution to me. The front seems like an easier fit too. Besides the extra power, what are the benefits of a rear over the front? Thanks