overthehill

Brompton with a Heinzmann conversion will go up and down hills all day long and probably outlast any any other conversion on the market.Not cheap but probably the best.

Alfine or nexus or sturmey add a Schlumph Mmountain drive to your Alfine or any other hub and it gives you a complete set of lower gears very cost effective with the Sturmey 8 speed combo im thinking about doing with my brompton. Alex

roholf dropouts Do a search on Kinetics I believe they do a dropout converter Alex

Alternative uses I use my bikes purely for health and leisure activity and my wife and I both have cars which are used for work and shopping or traveling longer distances on roads where cycling is unsuitable Alex

Fantastic machine

grumblers Get over it, its a great bike,it does what the people want and I thought we lived in a democracy,more power to the alien

Versatile A Brompton folding bike would be ideal for the boot of the car and could be purchased within your price band. No electrical assistance but should you wish to add there are lots of ways to do it. As Flecc and the guys say no standard assisted bike is likely to meet your requirements. I love my bromptons style and simplicity and its a doddle to fold and unfold from the boot of a small car. I also have a Smarta ebike which I rarely use. I am currently saving up for a Roholf hub and Heinzmann power assist for my Brompton. Good luck in your quest Alex

I will second that,motion carried. Alex

Reason Choosing your bike is a very personal thing as we all know one mans meat is anothers poison. Trust me when you find the right bike price will not be an issue. Reason and logic fly out the window and you are going to love it when you find it. Alex

Purely on what I see on this forum, the following lead by example. Wisper should be applauded as a manufacturer 50 cycles as a retailer Both go the extra mile for the customer Alex

Pl250 Ht Its actualy a 350 revamped to 250w hence the HT. Which I imagine most large manufacturers will follow. Alex

Aurora Another Aurora convert. Alex

Choice As a consumer I have no issue with those who wish to use pedalecs upto 250w But lets not pretend the B27 is a 250w when its really a 350w with a 48v battery repackaged to comply with current legislation and get one over other producers. So lets get the blinkers off and all play to the same rules. Should a consumer wish to use this bike I dont have an issue so long as the law is complied with. And therein lies the problem,the law as it stands allows loopholes like the B27 and yet the Aurora is illegal. Bikes should be restricted to 15mph but can we please have it available on hills and also with throttle control for town usage as a safety requirement. Modern systems can acheive this so I suggest the 250w regulation is where the problem lies . Alex

Decision So whats it going to be A bucket of salt or an expansive open mind? Alex

Great to see a development like this taking place in the UK all be it with German bikes. But pound for pound the Alien Aurora would get my vote at present. With the continued entry of some big players entering the ebike market the future for sophisticated development augers well and should stimulate growth and competition which we will all benefit from. Alex