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Tiberius the Lithium batt is an eZee and is identical in all respects except for the connectors through the square openings. James you are correct in all statements regarding my batteries. I will read the posts you referenced. I believe my first step as you suggested, is add anderson leads on the Quando in order to use the lithium (kit) battery. I believe I'll shelve the idea of the square housing battery connectors. Thanks to you both

I posted originally posted in a FAQ topic "Have I ruined my battery" but moved here for better exposure. Hope that's not rude. I have an eZee Quando with an NiMh battery (Serial # NEX 07050052.) I ride and charge it regularly (after 14-16 miles) and ride to cut-off at least once per month. It appears to be strong. I also have an eZee kit motor with a Lithium battery in similar good condition. The lithium battery has Anderson connectors but does not have the connectors (name unknown) used by the Quando (NiMh) battery. I would like to have 2 connectors on each battery (add an anderson connector to the Quando and (name unknown) connector to the lithium battery) to make them interchangeable with each bike. I have read admonitions against opening the case and I would probably have this done professionally. Is this a feasible option or is there a better solution?

Nimh vs Li connectors I was thinking my situation might fit in this thread. I have an eZee Quando with an NiMh battery (Serial # NEX 07050052.) I ride and charge it regularly and ride it to discharge at least once per month. It appears to be strong. I also have an eZee kit motor with a Lithium battery. The lithium battery has Anderson connectors but does not have the connectors (name unknown) used by the Quando (NiMh) battery. I would like to have 2 connectors on each battery (add an anderson connector to the Quando and (name unknown) connector to the lithium battery) to make them interchangeable with each bike. I have read admonitions against opening the case and I would probably have this done professionally. Is this a feasible option or is there a better solution?

This bike is starting to appear on the US market; Ebay price - $2599 (US). Evidently they've been in business for awhile and currently sold in India with lead acid batteries. I have little knowledge except the following: The A2B is a new light electric vehicle from British startup Ultra Motor specifically geared for urban transport. It is set to go on sale in the U.S. this summer and in Europe later this year. Priced at $2,200 and available through specialty retailers, it runs at speeds up to 32 km per hour (20 mph) and goes up to 70 km (43.5 miles) on a single charge. It comes with a tissue-box-sized removable lithium ion battery that can be charged in a normal electric outlet, just like a mobile phone. Sturdier than a bicycle but lighter than a motorscooter, it weighs just 32 kg (70.5 lbs.). Options include a "dashboard" with a charge indicator and saddlebags to store laptops and other personal effects

Keithhazel it sounds as if you've been there, done that. Yes, I do know you converted yours flecc and I'm curious to know if or how your conversion compares (other than cost) to a Brompton w/electrics for example or another folder/elec. built for riding comfort. You may remember that I spoke to my LBS about converting my Quando. I imagine the riding bikes eliminate most deficiencies except (hub) motor drag and I'm guessing that a Cyclone or Currie style motor probably doesn't drag.

My Quando battery cut out and I had to pedal home and it was very difficult. So is it easier to pedal if the motor is completely turned off (keyed off) or does it matter?

The Saga Continues The battery is now charged (about 3 hours +/-) with no additional problems so I took it for a spin. By comparison to my kitted electric, full size bike, the Quando is relatively light (54 lbs), nimble and quick, with a low center of gravity (big issue for me), easy to steer and much smaller. I can even put my feet on the ground providing more confidence and feeling “in control”. These points are emphasized regarding my normal errands involving a combination of street and sidewalk riding with associated signposts, pedestrians and guy wires to avoid (do I sound like a shill for eZee?). I mounted one of my panniers and cruised to the grocers. My first thought was how much safer to be seen due to the front and rear lights. The low slung panniers kept balance in check (even with a small watermelon) whereas the handlebar basket on the other bike requires more muscle as it adds to top heaviness. Thus far I am adding some peddle assist and after 10 or 12 miles, my battery is constantly yellow and darts into green when I ease off throttle and into red as I increase same. I’m striving to stay in yellow but will run it to cutoff before my second charge unless otherwise advised. I know it’s only been three days but I’m quite satisfied thus far.

Flecc I will copy/paste your good advice as usual. I may also remove the bottom portion of the chainguard regardless of gears as it presently flexes into the chain.

Thank you very much Tony. I haven't brazed or welded since too many years ago so I'll certainly have to bone up if i do so. At present, the new stand is working perfectly so I may just leave it.

I received my eZee Quando II a few weeks ago and regrettably, broke the kickstand attach braze while setting up the bike. I confess I probably exerted too much weight while pushing the sticky seat post down but after reading of others with this problem I believe this to be a design fault and poor brazing quality. I don’t expect this to be warranted. Because both of the braze points separated, the stand was held in place only by the attach bolt on the rear fender. Fortunately, I was able to remove the stand intact and will probably design and fabricate a mechanical means to reattach if needed. Meanwhile, my LBS can install a side kickstand which will suffice. But disregarding the stand, the bike seems well designed and appears tight and sturdy and is visually very attractive. The original NiMh battery was returned due to damage (a broken case) and I received the new one yesterday. I took a short (1/4 mile) test ride around the block and was very pleased with the smoothness, quiet operation and torque of this little motor. The frame fits my 5’-8” or 10” (depending on my crooked back) very well. I rode again in the early evening but it was short lived. After only 200/300 feet the LED light turned yellow and very quickly turned red and the motor stopped. I turned off the motor and pedaled and wheeled it into the garage and affixed the charger which failed to begin charging. I checked all the charger connections which appeared OK. I disconnected the charger and reinserted the key and the blinking diagnostic light started flashing. I counted 5 flashes several times which indicates a faulty throttle. Next Day So now it’s the next morning and after I prepare breakfast, I will test the bike again hoping for a better result. I ran diagnostics again and discovered my previous lapse in logic; the throttle was on when I ran diagnostics and obviously diagnostics “discovered” it so I now suppose the throttle is OK. I then rode to the LBS less than one mile away and the motor started cutting out about half the way so I’m sure the battery needs charging. I continued on pedal power (quite a chore) and had a new kickstand fitted on the rear axel. The balance is perfect and the LBS folks really like the bike (except of course the kickstand). I told Anders, the resident expert about Flecc’s installation of gears. He looked closely and said he might be able to fit five speed gears on the Quando which I may investigate. I will point him to Flecc's site if I do. Back home now, I tried to charge the battery again with no luck. I investigated my garage pull-down-electrical-cord on-a-reel and discovered it was not supplying power. “Drats” sez I and wondered what more can go wrong but secretly felt good that so far everything has been overcome. So I removed all flammable material on my workbench and the battery is charging there. The NiMh charger must have aninternal fan as it is making a little humming sound which is worrisome but I will keep an eye on it. (My SLA charger makes no noise). To be continued after charging