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Sounds like a good bike. I have looked at it but dont think it looks as nice as the gepida, which i think looks more sporty.

my apologies d8veh, i should have been more specific 'electrifyingcycles' referred to a review ,be it a shop review or bike review. i was hoping he could link me to the review. edit: http://www.gepida.de/eng-deu/product/bike/2013_alboin_1000_crs_bosch_nuvinci/ http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n200/fanta1973/ScreenHunter_21Feb052316_zpsfe3819f2.jpg

@electrifying great. can you link me to the shop / bike review as its quite a big site? thanks for the info

Unlikely, too costly ..lol i have been spending too much recently for no end result (things in general). If i do get a sit on a moustache or kalkhoff, it will be next month when funds have replenished.

Hi, Could one of the stockists please tell me price for said bike above with 400Wh battery inc delivery? I went into one stockist but they havent yet got back to me-may have slipped his mind but no worries.... Ive got a hungarian euro price(manufacturer country) for on the continent i think but not with larger battery and obviously not including delivery so im hoping a uk stockist can help me out. Cheers all.

ok ive had a few testrides today. bit sad i had to wait 25 minutes for a train so missed the opportunity to get to hampton wick for a kalkhoff test ride. however ive test ridden a tonaro bighit, an a2b metro, a scott bike and a neo cross. the neo cross i went to because i couldnt make hampton wick and turned up on offchance as i had returned to london and luckily were open until 7 apparently-of his bikes, manager recommended i try the cross neo..i can see why he did-super bike but i didnt try it on a hill. the scott i found similar to the neo on the flat and good uphill. the bighit throttle seemed weak to me- i was very disappointed and i mostly went to see the bighit on basis of reviews. the a2b metro i was very impressed with-honestly my favourite-it really zoomed but the manager advised if electrics broke down middle of nowhere, its a beast to pedal without power and the range sucks apparently. all in all ,a tie between the cross neo and scott for suitability. shame i didnt see the kalkhoffs.

Think i may have bitten off more than i can chew with all these thoughts. My head is starting to spin lol. Middle of next week after a few test rides i will be more grounded (hopefully ) I know there are a lot of variables so exact figures cannot be given but a specific bike manufacturer giving ranges about different drives is as impartial as i think i can get though i suppose it depends if theyre just going from the drive manufacturers advertising bumff and will defer to that if queried.

Yup no probs Alex, Page 11 of the first catalogue Kalkhoff : Downloads

@electrifying. That is brilliant news, it gives me options. Alex, yes indeed, if it came with the option id look towards that. Ive not spoken to the uk stockist so perhaps they could wangle something if i went for the samedi nuvinci. They do a 400ah samedi model but not on the nuvinci version . As regards, battery, yup the sahel is bigger but lol i shouldnt say this because they may take notice but kalkhoff have done a brilliant 2013 ebike catalogue and it has motor range comparisons and if i remember correctly, the bosch 400 is the same range if not then almost the same as the impulse so it may be torque or just how its designed- maybe it has more ooommmphi dont know.

@electrifying ktm nuvinci looks interesting proposition. thanks for the info, ill add it to the list @honeypie hello fellow newbie. i have no idea on crank motors but im sure one of the other members will have a good idea. welcome to the forum (if you get no answers here, you may have to make a thread about it.) @bosch crank drive battery knowledgable type folks or moustache ebike experts ...i dont suppose you know but how easy is it to put the larger 400ah new bosch battery on a bike in place of the 300ah one... reason im asking is the moustache samedi nuvinci comes with 300ah battery only and no greater option as far as i can tell with the new bosch motor but bosch do indeed do the 400ah battery ...can they be swapped out or might it not fit?? im comparing the moustache to the kalkhoffs with nuvinci and need the bigger battery to match on range even though the 300 is rangerific ,i want more if it can do it

Thanks for all the info guys. @dave elecgobikes is certainly close to my home. The kudos king looks a nice bit of kit. Think i will take a looksie. @john. Thanks for the link, crikey there are so many bikes on the market. I am hoping to go to 2 dealers on monday to test ride and learn things and will go from there. @john & d8veh that trailer is excellent value for money -not sure i would get a lot more from the hurley- just the shape of it i thought suits portability more and strapping a camping backpack on with equipment inside. Edit: would a trailer with a low center of gravity be more stable than one with a higher one- i am assuming it would be though the hurley has 2 wheels so would probably counter that fact !?

As regards the most costly ebikes (for me) that ive seen ,theres really 2 im leaning towards- the moustache samedi nuvinci and the kalkhoff impulse ergo. the ergo at first i thought eww no crossbar but thinking about it, if im going from a to b or camping, i may be weighted down or if ive just humped shopping bags to my bike i may be kna****ed so a step through might be better lol even though ive thought they looked like ladies bikes. so i suppose its impulse v bosch with these 2. the sahel i360 harmony looks similar to the ergo too but with different forks. also i downloaded the 2013 kalkhoff catalogue and i noticed the different models do have different style frames which surprised me with so many models.

Thanks bob for the welcome. the more advice the better is what i say. Lol yup to trying as many as i can But theres so many and i live in hull. Will be expensive traversing the country

@garry oh right cheers. Your / placement threw me when i read it. Id have put a comma 2 words on. Lol i hope you can see how i read it and was confused. On reading what you put, gawd i feel stupid lol . (Dont know how i missed that. Thought your last sentence there was shorter but as there's no edit, my mistake-will have to take greater care in what i read next time). The cranks uphill being better is said quite a bit but there does seem to be a good many hub bikes out there (more than crank it appears to me) so they cant be all rubbish at up hill. @flecc great news cheers. Not having ridden any ebike yet, still early days for me but i was leaning towards crank before and what you said helps the cause. End of day, sense of whats right for me will win out as garry said but +1 for cranks

Thanks alex .i really looking forward to checking out the different bikes. They do seem a bit expensive but well i suppose you average it out over how long you will have it and theres no road tax or costly insurance. Buses are along every 10 minutes where i live but having your own transport so much more convenient and if i get a trailer too, lol i will be carrying more than when i had my scooter and easily carrying stuff to my door.

Thanks for advice..bit confused about the 'for someone statement...' Its probably my humour sensors shutting down or something. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @electrifyingcycles. Thanks for advice about crank motors..i quickly wrote them down from the atob list and there didnt seem that many which kind of surprised me for something good. There seems many more hub motors so will probably end up with one of them but the funs in finding out. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @geebee. Good to know a crank drive would be suitable for hauling stuff. Thanks, info is appreciated Hauling stuff by bike trailer is pretty niche stuff i imagine so wasnt sure.

hi, i must start off by saying i am a complete newbie and have no knowledge of electric bikes other than what i have read online, so feel free to ridicule my lack of knowledge, ignorance or misperceptions. i am going to test ride a few bikes on monday so first hand experience will be mine hehe. anyway, i will be using the bike for shop runs but also travel between cities and possible camping trips(i am dreading i just said that because i now say i hope to buy a hurley 'golf trolley'(lol forget what its called) trailer and probably will get advised bikes i dont fancy because of load considerations). i am 5'11 by the way and approx 90kgs. in an ideal world, there are 2 bikes that i like the look of- one because its good value and a crank motor and the other because it has what i consider the best most advanced crank motor and advanced gear system though the motor not as good as on my cheaper choice i feel though am probably wrong. the 2nd bike is the only mb in the uk i can find with the specs for the price. anyway a few of my thoughts, sorry if i bore you. initially i thought get a folding, it will be so convenient hopping on and off a train but then i thought humping it around in a bag etc when i have other luggage kinda defeats the purpose and full size r meatier so scrubbed off my one folding bike i liked the look of, the new version gocycle. i really do like the look of the futuristic ebikes, ie gocycle, smart bike, a2b metro. appearance is a big thing with me. smart bike seems very niche-people say they like it but i dont see anyone saying they own one. a2b metro was and is still on my list but it doesnt go great distances apparently even with a 2nd battery and i am worried it wont go uphill. so onto the more conventional ebikes. after reading everything, i still keep coming back to the tonaro bighit. it ticks all the boxes for me and i dont know why but i think i want a crank motored bike..will probably change after test rides but the idea of switching off and cycling normally without 'pedal tension' (?) is a big plus. the bighit gets rave reviews and is good value. now other bike i am interested in which i will not be test riding on monday is the moustache samedi nuvinci. cost aside, it looks good. i really fancy getting a bike with the new nuvinci n360 drive with auto setting. so much so that i would consider getting an ebike and paying to buy the nuvinci gear seperately and having it installed in place of stock gears-will bike shops do that? will the nuvinci struggle with hills or towing a load(though ive heard towing a load is lighter than as if it was on bike??) right other bike options im thinking are Neo Cross and Ave range bikes and Ecobike Adventure. Range is important but not a deal breaker as ill just buy another battery if the bikes not too expensive. Price range is up to 2.45k thereabouts but not averse to spending a lot less advice is appreciated. sorry if it seems that ive allready decided. i havent but everyone has an opinion of what they like, im hoping guys /ladies with greater knowledge can advise and encourage /. discourage me. thanks in advance, all.

hi all, my name is chris and i live in hull. i am in my 30s and have very little experiences of bicycles in general other than as a kid growing up. i've just come from owning a couple of 125 scooters, a honda s-wing and a honda pcx125. after writing the pcx off when the damage only looked superficial (and no injury to myself), through exasperation i have had a short period relying on public transport. lack of road tax and the cheap insurance has brought me to you guys . wish i could say it was for the environment or a wish to get fit but unfortunately its purely economic and freedom of movement purposes that i am looking at getting an electric bicycle. i have not got an ebike yet so will shortly be posting a help, what should i get thread but lol after looking through all sorts of reviews and forum posts i am still unsure-the choice is so wide. i have a few ideas but will post in that thread. next week i am off to 'cycling made easy' (lol am i allowed to mention their name, i dont work for them i promise) to check out a few of their bikes and to take test rides. i am travelling a fair distance but they seemed to have a good selection of bikes and well thought itd be prudent to ride an ebike before buying even if its not the one i buy. with the exception of a few heated debates ive read related to 2 bikes funnily enough that i am considering, you guys all seem nice and very helpful. i cannot contribute much as regards knowledge but i very much hope you can enlighten me on this world. i hope to use the bike for travelling to shops aswell as longer distance travelling between cities so the bike will probably get used dailyish. thats all for now...now to decide what to post about what to get..lol thatll probably be up before you read this. anyway cheers and thanks for having me....