Thanks to the posters who told me to go non electric for using language softer than "pedal you lazy @@@@"!

 

My thinking was that an unpowered good folder of your own would be better to pedal than a very heavy Boris bike, but if cycling your own bike to the station as you now say, that suggestion doesn't really apply.

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The Jive,crowd funded project looks very good,but all the images are graphics no prototype ,bit of a worry whether it will ever be built and if it does will it perform as the designer suggests.

One that I really like is the Stigo but it is a moped,no pedals,but the fold is impressive,folded its like a golf trolley. Perhaps someone could advise on the implications of moped classification.

There are literally dozens of these small commuter style e-bikes at the Shanghai show,they all have their pros n cons. To be honest I haven't found one that is light,easy fold,easy move,powerful.....some get one element right at the expense of others. If that Stigo could have some pedals and drive that would make it into an EN15194 spec pedelec that would be good.

KudosDave

KD, in case you haven't noticed, the Gallego has EN15194 certificate and built not far from where you get your bikes.

Sorry to resurrect this older thread but I was away for a couple of days.

 

As I find the Gallego very easy to fold, I thought a short video would be helpful to show you how. It literally takes 2 seconds to fold and 2 to unfold.

Hatti.

Sorry to resurrect this older thread but I was away for a couple of days.

 

As I find the Gallego very easy to fold, I thought a short video would be helpful to show you how. It literally takes 2 seconds to fold and 2 to unfold.

Hatti.

Apologies if i'm missing something,but to me that looked like both much more than 2 secs,and quite a major karfufle compared to a Brompton?

There are a few differences in the folding compared to a Brompton. The Brompton does not have a latch for the rear wheel. You could say it's an advantage, you can pull the bike upwards and it will fold, or you can say it's a disadvantage, when you wheel a semi-folded Brompton about, the rear wheel is still in contact with the ground. On the Gallego, the rear wheel is lifted about 1 inch when semi-folded - only the rack wheels and the front wheel are in contact with the ground. You can lift elegantly a semi-folded Gallego, the rear wheel stays latched, not a semi-folded Brompton.

The Brompton has a front wheel latch, making the fold very tidy and elegant. The Gallego does not fold as compactly as the Brompton.

This said, Hatti could have pushed the seat post down like on the Brompton and not taken it out, that could have saved her a few seconds.

 

 

This said, Hatti could have pushed the seat post down like on the Brompton and not taken it out, that could have saved her a few seconds.

 

Yes, that's what I would do, in part to avoid a loose component.

 

The Brompton isn't an entirely fair comparison anyway, the Gallego is an e-bike.

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There are a few differences in the folding compared to a Brompton. The Brompton does not have a latch for the rear wheel. You could say it's an advantage, you can pull the bike upwards and it will fold, or you can say it's a disadvantage, when you wheel a semi-folded Brompton about, the rear wheel is still in contact with the ground. On the Gallego, the rear wheel is lifted about 1 inch when semi-folded - only the rack wheels and the front wheel are in contact with the ground. You can lift elegantly a semi-folded Gallego, the rear wheel stays latched, not a semi-folded Brompton.

The Brompton has a front wheel latch, making the fold very tidy and elegant. The Gallego does not fold as compactly as the Brompton.

This said, Hatti could have pushed the seat post down like on the Brompton and not taken it out, that could have saved her a few seconds.

 

 

Thanks,very helpful, often wonder why brompton fold that seems so simple hasn't been copied (much as copyright infringement is wrong)

There are a few differences in the folding compared to a Brompton. The Brompton does not have a latch for the rear wheel. You could say it's an advantage, you can pull the bike upwards and it will fold, or you can say it's a disadvantage, when you wheel a semi-folded Brompton about, the rear wheel is still in contact with the ground.

 

 

 

Of course if you think this is a bad feature of Brompton's you can buy a gizmo to change it. Here is one http://brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-folding-detail/340-brompton-rear-frame-clip-retrokit-5053099040179.html

that gizmo only keeps the rear wheel of the Brompton latched when unfolded, not when it's folded. The rear wheel latch on the Gallego has dual purpose, keeps the rear wheel latched when unfolded and latched when folded.

? but the Brompton doesn't need the Gizmo to keep it latched when its folded, it does that by design. I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

the problem with pushing and pulling a bike is the rear wheel being directional. It rolls freely only one way. The rack wheels do not have problem with direction. When you push or pull a folded bike, you don't want the rear wheel to be in contact with the ground. You need to raise the rear wheel off the ground and latch it off the ground, leaving only the non-directional rack wheels in contact with the ground. The Gallego rear latch does that when the rear wheel is folded, the gizmo does not.

Putting this thread back on track, I never heard back from Retail so I guess he gave up the idea altogether?