Yes the Freego is not light but is that the most important factor? Will the bike need to be picked up and carried any distance? Will two people or just one be available to carry it? As it is an ebike, the weight will have little effect on the performance and would still be easy to ride unpowered but not ideal. Perhaps the OP could shed some light on the weight issue.

 

Unless you go to at least a 15 or 16ah battery, you will be charging daily and that will shorten the batery life as earlier stated. There are lighter bikes that will do a daily journey as I said before.

Yes, it needs to be carried 2 flights up the stairs at home. 2 people may be available but not always, so we need to count only one person is available.

Yes, it needs to be carried 2 flights up the stairs at home. 2 people may be available but not always, so we need to count only one person is available.

I do not believe you will find a bike to meet your specific needs weight wise. This is an issue covered on other threads with no happy ending. You are looking for the holy grail of ebikes, a light weight, easy to handle bike that will cover the range and still be comfortable. Could it be folded and stored in the boot of your car when not it use?

I suppose a used Montague Urban (£250) with a 2.2kg rear hub motor from Greenbikekit, £110 after import fees, oh and the controller/display/levers etc, another £70, then possibly £100 to get a bike builder builder to put it together unless you want to have a go yourself (mine took me two months...), £270 for a 3.4kg Eclipse battery, it'd be maybe 15kg for the bike + 3.4kg for the battery to take upstairs in two trips, but I'd say it'd put anyone's back out after a few goes. And the Montague Urban stupidly will only take narrow possibly hard-riding 30mm tyres unless you get someone with an angle grinder to take off the rear rim brake mount (it's got rear disc fittings). It's also a 700c so harder than a 26 inch to pedal independently if any knee issues. There are some 26 inch Dahon Cadenzas with the same kind of weight (not the rear hub gear versions). But this lifting upstairs thing is no joke imho. Either of those bikes will go in a boot - although that's not a joke either, one can put one's back out doing that too.

It's a long way to travel on small wheels I wouldn't want to do it not unless it was on a moped

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It's a long way to travel on small wheels I wouldn't want to do it not unless it was on a moped

 

Nearly 20 miles each way is a very long distance for a commute on a full size ebike, let alone a small wheeled folder.

 

It will equate to about an hour and a half each way - too much on a daily basis and thoroughly unpleasant in poor weather.

After re-reading the OP's posts, I think his wife work's place is 9 miles from home. It's possible but hard going. I did like the idea of keeping the folder in the back of the car instead of lugging it up two flights of stairs.

After re-reading the OP's posts, I think his wife work's place is 9 miles from home. It's possible but hard going. I did like the idea of keeping the folder in the back of the car instead of lugging it up two flights of stairs.

Yes, trex you are right. Its 9 miles each way.

Does anyone know realistic milage on moderate use (70% pedal assist, 30% throttle)of woosh or kudos secret?

Also whether they can reach to 15mph on throttle?

 

I was also looking at the a2b kuo +. Dont mind spending couple hundred extra for better components, milage. Its also 19 kg mark. Can anyone comment on this buke or have a better folding alternative for £1200?

Kuo + plus is a good bike if you want something lighter. We have two of these on the way to us for a customer plus the standard Kuo in stock.

 

What is your Mrs planning to use the throttle for, as most people are suprised how good the pedal assist is. However some people find the throttle handy for junctions.

 

To increase comfort you could add balloon tyres.

 

Dave

if the bike is made in China, they have about the same quality of components. You won't find Deore XT groupset or Fox suspensions there.

Kuo + plus is a good bike if you want something lighter. We have two of these on the way to us for a customer plus the standard Kuo in stock.

 

What is your Mrs planning to use the throttle for, as most people are suprised how good the pedal assist is. However some people find the throttle handy for junctions.

 

To increase comfort you could add balloon tyres.

 

Dave

Thanks. Throttle would be helpful climbing a hill or a flyover without putting extra effort. Or depend on throttle if she's tired to push the bike.

if the bike is made in China, they have about the same quality of components. You won't find Deore XT groupset or Fox suspensions there.

Are you saying a2b kudos or woosh would have pretty much similar quality components? And not worth paying extra?

 

Regardless of components some features are available in some where its not available on the others. For example throttle speed limited to 4mph on kudos. But on woosh can reach upto 15mph on throttle alone, correct me if I am wrong. Not sure if a2b throttle speed. Please state if you know.

The green edge is full throttle and twelve months warranty and less than £600 so I guess parts are the cheaper make Then you get the kudos for £895 no throttle apart from walking throttle and I would guess they are made in China too. Most things are made in China now and are getting better with quality control I think.

The green edge is full throttle and twelve months warranty and less than £600 so I guess parts are the cheaper make

But its a full size bike you are talking about...

But its a full size bike you are talking about...

Yes but im on about the parts all coming from the same country maybe even the same factory so I guess like all things you pay for the name. Most Peugeot scooter are made in China on the same production line as bikes half the price but you pay for the name and the dealer back up.

Just visited Halfords to check their e foldings. Liked the way it looks. But unfortunately there's no throttle. Just wondering is it possible to add a throttle in this bike? What's the difficulty level? Please share your thoughts.

you can't add much to ready built bikes.

Just visited Halfords to check their e foldings. Liked the way it looks. But unfortunately there's no throttle. Just wondering is it possible to add a throttle in this bike? What's the difficulty level? Please share your thoughts.

The viking bike or if you get it from tesco its called the hopper shopper you can add a plug in throttle that costs £36

Take the controller out of the housing under the frog battery, you will find a spare socket with three wires on the loom exiting the controller. This is the throttle connection. most throttles will plug in to this socket. Try http://www.pandabikes-shop.co.uk/ who post on here for a suitable throttle. 20 minute job and you can buy the hopper shopper/ viking for less than £500

The viking bike or if you get it from tesco its called the hopper shopper you can add a plug in throttle that costs £36

Thanks Scott!! How about this one? my wife liked the appearance & color of this one http://www.tesco.com/direct/hopper-urban-electric-bike-burgundy/730-7949.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=730-7949 over the shopper version.

 

is this modifiable?

Thanks Scott!! How about this one? my wife liked the appearance & color of this one http://www.tesco.com/direct/hopper-urban-electric-bike-burgundy/730-7949.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=730-7949 over the shopper version.

 

is this modifiable?

I don't know about that one mate I only know how to do it to the hopper shopper/viking make. Sorry about that.

Thanks Scott!! How about this one? my wife liked the appearance & color of this one http://www.tesco.com/direct/hopper-urban-electric-bike-burgundy/730-7949.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=730-7949 over the shopper version.

 

is this modifiable?

That is the same as the Viking Harrier, different from the E Go. It has better spec and range and that is an outstanding price. Don't know about adding a throttle though. You mentioned the throttle for hills. Throttles by themselves will not get you up a hill. In fact over use of the throttle on hills without pedaling my harm your system. It is best to use your high assist level and pedal as well. This bike works very well, I think you think the throttle will do more than it can actually do.

That is the same as the Viking Harrier, different from the E Go. It has better spec and range and that is an outstanding price. Don't know about adding a throttle though. You mentioned the throttle for hills. Throttles by themselves will not get you up a hill. In fact over use of the throttle on hills without pedaling my harm your system. It is best to use your high assist level and pedal as well. This bike works very well, I think you think the throttle will do more than it can actually do.

So do you mean if you let the motor do all the work you could infact damage the motor or even ruin it totaly? As for throttle I always thought that was more of a get me off the line quick gadget or help me start up a hill is my thinking correct on that?

So do you mean if you let the motor do all the work you could infact damage the motor or even ruin it totaly? As for throttle I always thought that was more of a get me off the line quick gadget or help me start up a hill is my thinking correct on that?

A throttle is great for getting off of the line and approaching a hill indeed. But if the grade is too steep and/or the rider too heavy, the throttle simply will not pull you up the hill. Keeping the throttle wide open in a stall situation could cause damage to the controller more so than the motor. On flats and slight grades, you can run the throttle all of the time with no problems. Harder on the range though. The Harrier/Hopper is a 24 volt system and does not have the pulling power of a 36 volt system as well.

Great explanation thanks emo