September 8, 20169 yr Hi Anyone tested or bought the 2017 Scott E-Silence EVO yet? http://www.scott-sports.com/au/en/products/249760007/SCOTT-E-Silence-Evo-Bike
September 8, 20169 yr Author Tim, What was the reason to go with the Alfine 11 in lieu of the Nuvinci. A commercial decision or other?
September 8, 20169 yr We hope to have one at the NEC Cycle Show. Should know for sure next week. http://www.50cycles.com/assets/images/12/1472139259_249760.jpg We've gone for the 11-speed Alfine rather than the NuVinci Sorry for hijacking the thread,but as Tim is proudly displaying forth coming stock in his 50cycles shops have you now dropped Kalkhoff due to really bad reliability problems your customers are having.???
September 8, 20169 yr On the contrary, we're selling more Kalkhoff than ever and have put in a very large order for 2017 Kalkhoff e-bikes.
September 8, 20169 yr No I wouldn't, poor rear frame geometry for no good reason. . I agree someone got mixed up and put the top tube too high and the seat stay too low in total contradiction with basic geometry. Gustave Eiffel is turning in his grave!
September 8, 20169 yr I agree someone got mixed up and put the top tube too high and the seat stay too low in total contradiction with basic geometry. Gustave Eiffel is turning in his grave! And that's without even mentioning the carrier that's only supported at the rear, cantilever fashion! The trouble with style based e-bikes is the £1000 added per engineering rule broken. . Edited September 8, 20169 yr by flecc
September 9, 20169 yr On the contrary, we're selling more Kalkhoff than ever and have put in a very large order for 2017 Kalkhoff e-bikes. I'm looking forward to seeing the 2017 models
September 9, 20169 yr I'm looking forward to seeing the 2017 models Lets hope they are more reliable because kalkhoffs are always expensive.
September 25, 20169 yr On the contrary, we're selling more Kalkhoff than ever and have put in a very large order for 2017 Kalkhoff e-bikes. One may wonder why 50 Cycles will no longer be the exclusive UK reseller then, and why 50 Cycles is now diversifying to many other makes...
September 25, 20169 yr I'm looking at the rack and something doesn't look right. I hope that the mudguard is strong and stiff otherwise the weld on the frame is not going to last too long. If they had a sensible frame design, like Flecc suggested, they could've fixed the front of the rack to the frame. I agree that styling/fashion has been given precedence over functional design. Maybe the rack isn't supposed to be functional as a rack, but instead is a stylised mudguard stay. Another thing: I can't see a join in the frame to get the belt off. There must be one somewhere to put the belt on in the first place. How does it work?
September 25, 20169 yr Another thing: I can't see a join in the frame to get the belt off. There must be one somewhere to put the belt on in the first place. How does it work? this picture shows how this is done: http://www.evocycles.co.uk/smsimg/53/mdb-f17260_17260-0.jpg
September 25, 20169 yr this picture shows how this is done: http://www.evocycles.co.uk/smsimg/53/mdb-f17260_17260-0.jpg Please explain. My braincell has got caught behind my ear.
September 25, 20169 yr I thought I saw a join about 1/2 " to the right of the right M6 allen bolt. I may be wrong, it can be a weld, not a join. The chain side support for the rack seems like capable of hiding the join. Edited September 25, 20169 yr by trex
September 25, 20169 yr The only thing I can see is that thing at the top that looks a bit like a strap with an axial bolt into the seat-stay, but it's not clear in the photo. In the 45 deg on photo, there appears to be a join just below where the rack is fixed on the seat-stay. maybe there's a bolt on the inside.
September 25, 20169 yr I'm looking forward to seeing the 2017 models I understand that the Kalkhoff 2017 models will have an improved motor in that there have been modifications to current Evo motor and I'm told bearings will be larger. I read something some time ago on one of the sites that the bearings were not big enough?
September 25, 20169 yr I thought I saw a join about 1/2 " to the right of the right M6 allen bolt. I may be wrong, it can be a weld, not a join. The chain side support for the rack seems like capable of hiding the join. The chainstay spreads wide and flatter at the front, so it may have two bolts hidden behind the chainwheel, enabling enough spread there to pass a belt though. It would mean removing the chainwheel to fit a belt, but given their very long life that's not a big problem. Not a roadside job though! .
September 25, 20169 yr I think the screws at the dropout hold a removable plate. The photo isn't showing the joins.
September 25, 20169 yr I understand that the Kalkhoff 2017 models will have an improved motor in that there have been modifications to current Evo motor and I'm told bearings will be larger. I read something some time ago on one of the sites that the bearings were not big enough? Officially, there was no widespread issue with Impulse 2 motors, but a large number of faults proved them wrong. Then, Kalkhoff eventually acknowledged the issue and released a software update that was resolving "100%" of the issue... but quite a lot of buyers have had failures despite that update (or recently on new bikes). Then the issue was not applicable to Impulse Evo motors, but quite a lot of people seem to be having failures. And now, they are releasing an improved version of the Evo motors, with better bearings, for a motor that was fine anyway... I think it's best to forget the full Impulse range, and buy a bike powered by Bosch, Panasonic, Yamaha or Shimano motors instead.
September 26, 20169 yr Author Hi all, Thank you for your comments Scott have advised that this bike will not be available in Australia for some time (if ever) due to the current lack of after sales support for the product According to this article http://www.outkomm.ch/presse_downloads/SCOTT/2016-08-31 Bike Highlights 2017/PDF/PM_Scott_17-1_E-Bike Line-Up_2017_Highlight_Media Info_EN.pdf there is a smart frame opening in the seat stay to allow belt changes. Could it be where the strut for the carrier joins at the seat stay? Edited September 26, 20169 yr by E-Wheels
September 26, 20169 yr I'm assume EWheels is Australian, if so Avanti do an equivalent. "Inc E" , local NZ Avanti dealer has one shop so ring round. I think price as around $4k which is very good for belt drive. I think you can retro fit Di2 to Nexus 8. The other alternative is Smartmotion Pacer.
September 26, 20169 yr Author Trevormonty Yes you assume correctly I am in Australia Thanks for the suggestions, I will look into these
September 26, 20169 yr Another thing: I can't see a join in the frame to get the belt off. There must be one somewhere to put the belt on in the first place. How does it work? I think the explanation is the pic has been tinkered with to make the bike look smoother - there are no valves on the rims. Quite a few bike publicity shots are messed around with.
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