November 2, 200619 yr Oops, actually this is what happened. The assistance was inversely proportional to the effort you put in. The motor would gradually offer less assistance until you reached the top speed of 15mph. <snip> When the rider works and the pedal cadence rises, the motor reduces it's help on the basis that the rider obviously doesn't need help. Conversely, when the rider hits a hill and the pedal cadence drops as he/she starts to struggle, the motor increasingly comes in with help. I was using this only this morning towing my huge trailer up my 1 in 8 hill after a rubbish disposal trip. Feeling a bit lazy, I just slowed my pedalling right down and the motor took over most of the work. I think I prefer this system, since the other demands you have to work harder in order to get more help, which seems a bit illogical.
November 2, 200619 yr Aron, you don't have to turn off the throttle for braking, the brake lever switch cuts the power. On that tiring throttle Russ, there's an unexpected benefit from my mod. I've found if I push in the outer rubber slightly when on the road, it binds against the turning portion and holds it in place. A sort of poor man's cruise control.
November 2, 200619 yr That sounds a bit dangerous, i'd be forever chasing after my bike for forgetting to turn off e-bike mode! As posted elsewhere, my twist grip no longer springs back, this does have the benefit of meaning I do not have to hold it in place thus saving my hands, and being able to ride nohanded. The onlt down-side is when emergency braking I have to remember to twist it off as well as put on the brakes (oh and turning on the key, I have to check the twist grip is off or I have switched to pedelectric or the bike will run away). So you may want to disable the spring to save your wrists!
November 2, 200619 yr To Russ: Oh, so it is the same system. The other way would have one advantage though, being able to pool both bike and rider effort to achieve the maximum possible output for hill climbing etc. To Jed: I don't leave the rubber binding after, just while on a longer journey. I don't find the Torq too dangerous for kicking off accidentally in Ebike mode, it's the lower geared motor on the Quando that makes that really dangerous as A to B magazine reported. It kicks off so fast it wheelies into the vertical instantly. I really frightened a couple of people before I got used to that. :o It would be dead easy to get dumped on the tarmac. Edited November 2, 200619 yr by flecc
November 6, 200619 yr For those that like to put a decent amount of pedalling effort into their rides, I've changed my standard pedals to a set of Shimano SPD pedals that quite cleverly, have the SPD connection on one side and a normal pedal on the other! It really does make a difference and should enable you to put maybe 1 or 2 mph on your cruising speed.
November 6, 200619 yr What is an SPD connection please? It's a type of connection that basically allows you to wear compatible cycling shoes/boots that have a clip fitted to the bottom of the shoe. The clip attaches to the pedal which then allows you to pull the pedal up as well as push it down. You've just got to remember to unclip one before you stop! This Shimano SPD (SPD is Shimano terminology - Shimano Pedaling Dynamics) has a normal platform pedal on one side so you don't have to use the clip.
November 6, 200619 yr I agree about the grips. Just passable with bare hands but as soon as you put gloves on they're quite uncomfortable over long periods. Those would be wonderful improvements and entirely feasible. One small improvement I'd like is wider (and better) handlebar grips. I don't have particularly large hands but I still find the Torq's grips too small. Tony
November 7, 200619 yr I also agree about the grips, and in my twistgrip mod instructions you'll see I made that wider by an inch: http://users.tinyworld.co.uk/flecc/twistgrip.html The right hand one doesn't seem so important as the twistgrip one, but I've even made that wider as a result of fitting a Cateye bar end mirror, since it's insert boss adds a bit. .
November 7, 200619 yr How easy would it be to change the bar entirely as i'm also finding the grips a bit too small, especially the twistgrip ? thanks Jed
November 7, 200619 yr The bar shouldn't need to be changed entirely Jed, there's plenty of straight bar inboard of the fitments, so for most of them, it's just a matter of moving them further in to increase the end length for longer grip rubbers. The odd item that needs more attention is the twistgrip. To deal with this you need a grip rubber that will go over 30 mm (1.2") diameter rather than the standard 22 mm standard cycle bar, and a motor cycle dealer is more likely to have that if cycle dealers can't supply. Once the rubber is off the twistgrip you'll see it's plastic tube underneath and you'll need to find an inch or so of tube the same diameter that you can add to the end before sliding on the new grip rubber, so that it will still turn freely on the bar. Try a plumbing store or DIY for that plastic tube, doesn't matter if it's a fraction too big as you could slit it until it compressed in to size, then bind it at that with PVC tape before fitting the rubber grip. The PVC tape could be overlapped onto the existing tube section to lock the two securely together.
November 29, 200619 yr For those thinking about adding Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres to their Torq's I've been experimenting with different tyre pressures. The Marathon Plus is rated to maximum 80 PSI which with the Torq's lack of suspension gives a rather bone-rattling ride! I've found a good balance between speed and comfort is to inflate the tyres to around 65-70 PSI. The Marathon's will never be a fast tyre though, their renowned for their puncture-resistant abilities than rolling-resistance!
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