i am looking for a commuter bike to do 8 miles into Central London and am at a loss as to which one to go for.

 

I would like it to have a throttle (does this mean I need an older version?), be under £1000 and, in an ideal world, be available on cycle to work scheme.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations? Thank you so much in advance!

 

Ben

Juicy

With so many to choose from, you really need to try as many as you can, to get a better idea of what you do, and don't, like.

 

Gaz

Juicy

Does juicy come with a throttle? And would I be able to derestrict?

Our Sport, Classic, Poco and standard Compact all have throttles which are legal to 4mph. They can be set to a higher speed (15mph) but I'm sure you're aware that's not legal.

 

Roller and Compact Plus do not have throttles.

 

You can get a quote for the Cycle To Work Scheme by filling in the form at our website.

 

Hope this helps.

i am looking for a commuter bike to do 8 miles into Central London and am at a loss as to which one to go for.

 

I would like it to have a throttle (does this mean I need an older version?), be under £1000 and, in an ideal world, be available on cycle to work scheme.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations? Thank you so much in advance!

 

Ben

 

Good morning Ben,

 

I would suggest the Woosh Zephyr 2017.

It is a modern, well equipped, powerful and comfortable bike, with a range about 30 to 40 miles on a full charge.

E-bikes attract thieves in London. The Zephyr's in-frame battery makes the bike look less conspicuous.

We work with a number of C2W schemes. Which one does your company use?

 

http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?zephyr-2017

I have an underground garage to park it in at work which should be very secure. I like the look of the Whoosh Karoo, can I just full throttle it up to 15mph? If I go off road, can I de restrict?

 

Is there anyway of testing one in London or would I have to come to Southend?

 

The cycle scheme is https://www.cyclescheme.co.uk/

Is that ok?

 

Ben

i am looking for a commuter bike to do 8 miles into Central London and am at a loss as to which one to go for.

 

I would like it to have a throttle (does this mean I need an older version?), be under £1000 and, in an ideal world, be available on cycle to work scheme.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations? Thank you so much in advance!

 

Ben

 

Hi Ben,

 

Are you looking for a step through, a cross bar bike or a small 20" wheel with folding capability?

 

If you could stretch to £1,099.00 we could get you onto a reliable Wisper SE series. We have dealers in London who would be able to demo the bike and let you have a test ride. They would also be able to service your bike in the ensuing years, very important for commuting.

 

705se

806se

905se

 

All the best, David

I have an underground garage to park it in at work which should be very secure. I like the look of the Whoosh Karoo, can I just full throttle it up to 15mph? If I go off road, can I de restrict?

 

Is there anyway of testing one in London or would I have to come to Southend?

 

The cycle scheme is https://www.cyclescheme.co.uk/

Is that ok?

 

Ben

Hi Ben,

Hatti does not want to work with cyclescheme.co.uk

I've tried many times to ask her to sign up with them but she won't change her mind.

I am sorry.

Do the Whisper bikes have full throttle?

They can have, however unless you need it for medical reasons we would advise against it. Strictly speaking it does make the bike unusable legally in the UK anywhere the public have access. We do however have an ex demo 806Classic which was delivered into the UK before the law changed. We could certainly supply this one under the Green Commute Initiative.

 

https://wisperbikes.com/green-commute-initiative/

 

All the best, David

David - do you have a contact number?

07733226906

Hi Ben

We could help you at a great price. Below is our hybrid model which will easily do your commute. We are based in London so you could pop around to try one. Or we can send you a demonstrator to try for a week.

www.edge.bike

 

 

(We are trade, just awaiting for the account to be upgraded)

That frame looks remarkably like the Oxygen....

Hi Andy

It does indeed !

Do you have an Oxygen bike ?

I just checked your website. There's a couple of things you need to change. It's a Bafang motor, not Bafung and you say peak power is 250w. I can't say that it isn't true because I haven't measured it, but if it is peak power of 250w, it would perform like a wet blanket. Most motors like that give peak power of about 500w from a 15A controller at 36v. Some give a lot more. The 250w written on the motor is the rated power. Basically, you need to change the word "peak" to "rated".

D8Veh

Thanks for the feedback ! I will get onto it.

 

Rgds

That frame looks remarkably like the Oxygen....

 

You are correct Andy, it looks like a cheaper version of the Oxygen. A lot of importers use the same basic bike frames and battery cases, then specify the rest of the equipment on the bike depending on price points and add their logo and paintwork.

 

Nothing wrong with the bikes I am sure, assuming they have good support and spare parts availability.

 

Good luck guys at Edge, we wish you every success!

 

Are you anything to to with Green Edge?

 

All the best, David

 

EDIT Battery cases, not batteries.

Edited July 14, 20178 yr by Wisper Bikes

That's right. It has cheaper gears, chainset and forks, no mudguards or rack, a much cheaper and less sophisticated control system (Oxygen has 18 levels) and, although the battery looks similar, who knows what cells are in it?

 

It looks reasonable for £1000, but don't try and compare it with the Oxygen just because it's the same shape. The oxygen is a completely different bike with a higher specification. Also, I'd be very surprised if the Edge could get anywhere near the Oxygen in a race, which is one reason why so many people buy Oxygens.

Sorry Dave, you are correct. I have edited batteries to battery cases.

 

All the best, David

I went for a Wisper SE bike in the end. David was very helpful and I had a local dealer.I will attempt to give a review of the bike when I get a few more miles under the belt!

 

 

Ben

Thanks for the business Ben, I appreciate it.

 

Please let us know how you get on.

 

Be safe.

 

All the best, David

That's right. It has cheaper gears, chainset and forks, no mudguards or rack, a much cheaper and less sophisticated control system (Oxygen has 18 levels) and, although the battery looks similar, who knows what cells are in it?

 

It looks reasonable for £1000, but don't try and compare it with the Oxygen just because it's the same shape. The oxygen is a completely different bike with a higher specification. Also, I'd be very surprised if the Edge could get anywhere near the Oxygen in a race, which is one reason why so many people buy Oxygens.

 

Hi D8veh

Firstly thanks for the feedback on the typos we have now corrected the website.

 

Secondly, can I just clarify a few points.

 

Our bike does come with mudguards, our gears are Shimano Tourney v Oxygen Acera, I'm not sure whether that's a significant difference ?

 

Our chain is KMC and so is Oxygen bikes. Our front fork is SR Suntour XCT Oxygen has the same. As for our control system I don't profess to be a technical expert in this area but I am told it is similar. But I am happy to be informed otherwise. Probably also worth pointing out that the battery cells on our model are LG.

 

To be fair to Oxygen they have hydraulic brakes and ours are mechanical, something we will probably change for the next shipment.

 

The simple reason our bike is cheaper, if we cut to the chase is that we choose to go direct to the customer and Oxygen choose to go through dealers. Both selling channels have their pro's and con. I would hate for anyone to think we had inferior quality product just because we are cheaper.

 

Please be clear I didn't come on here to say my bike is better than X..and having been active on car forums for many years I am acutely aware of forum etiquette.

 

Having read a lot of your previous posts, you are clearly and expert in this field. I would be delighted to send you a bike for you try out and feedback on.

 

Rgds

If your comparing with the Oxygen MTB, it has a cassette motor and cassette gears, which are chalk and cheese compared with Shimano Tourney freewheel gears. It has Suntour XCM forks which are a step up from XCT. Chainset means chainwheels and cranks. The Oxygen has tripple chainrings Shimano Acera.

 

In the post above, I was comparing the S-cross CB, which is closer to yours and does have XCT forks and a freewheel motor, but it has an Acera chainset and derailleurs.

 

Do you know if your controller uses current control or speed control for the PAS levels? Current control is sometimes called "torque simulation" by the Chinese. If it's from KT, it's probably current control. I think LiShui is always speed control, but I'm not sure. Others can be anything, though not often current control.