I highly doubt many ebikes are actually running at 250W anyway regardless of what the sticker states on the motor. Most of them imo are already illegal by your standards so it's a good job you lot are the only ones who care so much or all of our bikes would be impounded I guess.

 

Pretty much almost all e-bikes use more than 250W. They do it legally as power is not limited by law at all.

Ignorance is not an excuse in court. It is your responsibility to make sure your bike is legal.

Pretty much almost all e-bikes use more than 250W. They do it legally as power is not limited by law at all.

Ignorance is not an excuse in court. It is your responsibility to make sure your bike is legal.

So you are saying I should get a 250W motor and put 1000W through it instead because thats legal?

So you are saying I should get a 250W motor and put 1000W through it instead because thats legal?

 

I didn't suggest that, but yes, it would be legal. Taking 1000W motor and running it at 250W would be illegal. Silly, but it is the law.

I didn't suggest that, but yes, it would be legal. Taking 1000W motor and running it at 250W would be illegal. Silly, but it is the law.

I watched a video by Dudestuff recently, he used a 52V battery with 2000W controller on a 250W motor and got 30 mph out of it! If that is legal then I highly doubt it is any safer than my 1000W motor running at 250W current even if both were limited to 15mph but hey. The law can't possibly ever be wrong so I will go do that instead...

I watched a video by Dudestuff recently, he used a 52V battery with 2000W controller on a 250W motor and got 30 mph out of it! If that is legal then I highly doubt it is any safer than my 1000W motor running at 250W current even if both were limited to 15mph but hey. The law can't possibly ever be wrong so I will go do that instead...

 

52V battery is illegal as far as I remember. Motor must stop assisting above 15.5mph, so bike you were watching was illegal.

That's fine but I did not break any rules. I followed the exact information written on the official government website and I bought a bike that is stated to be legal from the business that sold me the bike. I have purchased dual power bikes a decade ago and the companies are still selling the same bikes now. They have not been shut down by the law for selling illegal bikes. Pretty certain they never will.

 

I did everything in my power to follow these ridiculous laws. If anyone made any mistake then its the company who sold me the bike and the government for (in your opinion) making mistakes on the website.

 

Maybe you should all start putting your efforts into taking down the ebike companies and the government for their mistakes instead of nitpicking at people like me for doing everything in their power to follow these asinine laws.

As I said, it's not for me to judge, nor interfere. I provide information and advice without obligation and free of charge.

 

You didn't follow the information on the government website. It says maximum output power of 250w. Your bike has always exceeded that. 250w output would be around 12 amps at 24v, 8 amps at 36v or 7 amps at 48v. I've only ever seen two controllers in 14 years set that low, and they were useless.

52V battery is illegal as far as I remember. Motor must stop assisting above 15.5mph, so bike you were watching was illegal.

Yep so 48V battery and 2000W controller limited to 15mph and we are all set by law

 

You do realise how many laws we all break on a daily bases without realising it right? I do hope you have all studied every single law and are being responsible...

Law does not equal safe. You are deluded if you honestly think that. Go smoke some cigarettes and drink some alcohol.

I'm not sure if you are replying to the right person, but I never said legal = safe and illegal = unsafe.

As I said, it's not for me to judge, nor interfere. I provide information and advice without obligation and free of charge.

 

You didn't follow the information on the government website. It says maximum output power of 250w. Your bike has always exceeded that. 250w output would be around 12 amps at 24v, 8 amps at 36v or 7 amps at 48v. I've only ever seen two controllers in 14 years set that low, and they were useless.

I followed the information from the site that has been selling these bikes for nearly half a decade now. It states -

 

'In simple terms, the bikes default setting is 250 watts and maxes out at 15.5mph, however, this gem is fitted with a button for off roading (with land owners permission) which converts it to 1000w capacity.'

 

That is good enough for me.

I watched a video by Dudestuff recently, he used a 52V battery with 2000W controller on a 250W motor and got 30 mph out of it! If that is legal then I highly doubt it is any safer than my 1000W motor running at 250W current even if both were limited to 15mph but hey. The law can't possibly ever be wrong so I will go do that instead...

52v is illegal. The standard only allows up to 48v. 30 mph is also illegal.

 

There is no such thing as 250w current. You have never run your bike at 250w. If you had, it would be completely useless, you'd chuck it and get something that works. Please explain exactly what you have done that you think runs it at 250w.

I'm not sure if you are replying to the right person, but I never said legal = safe and illegal = unsafe.

You said "Or you could choose to put around 800W through a 250W rated motor like most of us here and be perfectly legal and safe."

 

This may be perfectly legal but safety is up to the rider, not the law.

I followed the information from the site that has been selling these bikes for nearly half a decade now. It states -

 

'In simple terms, the bikes default setting is 250 watts and maxes out at 15.5mph, however, this gem is fitted with a button for off roading (with land owners permission) which converts it to 1000w capacity.'

 

That is good enough for me.

...But not good enough for conforming with UK law:

 

“Off road” assistance

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electrically-assisted-pedal-cycles-eapcs/electrically-assisted-pedal-cycles-eapcs-in-great-britain-information-sheet#off-road-assistance

52v is illegal. The standard only allows up to 48v. 30 mph is also illegal.

 

There is no such thing as 250w current. You have never run your bike at 250w. If you had, it would be completely useless, you'd chuck it and get something that works. Please explain exactly what you have done that you think runs it at 250w.

I have not done anything lol

 

It is the same factory setting by Merkybikes. It just has a switch for dual power. One runs really slow and sluggish and the other is set to 1000W. You would have to ask them I guess.

Yep so 48V battery and 2000W controller limited to 15mph and we are all set by law

 

I don't understand why are you trying to be sarcastic. May I remind you, it is you who has problems with e-bikes. I love mine. I have as much power as I need and I have it legally. I don't have to look behind my shoulder or be afraid I might loose my driving license or even a home.

Why would I make my life more difficult? If you want to be a rebel without a cause then be my guest. It is your choice.

I followed the information from the site that has been selling these bikes for nearly half a decade now. It states -

 

'In simple terms, the bikes default setting is 250 watts and maxes out at 15.5mph, however, this gem is fitted with a button for off roading (with land owners permission) which converts it to 1000w capacity.'

 

That is good enough for me.

Off-road buttons are specifically mentioned as being illegal on the government website.

I will leave you all to it, you are obviously nuts and have WAY too much time on your hands. You lot scare me WAY more than the law ever will lol

So you are saying I should get a 250W motor and put 1000W through it instead because thats legal?

Yes that's what I was suggesting earlier. Albeit 800W.

Yep so 48V battery and 2000W controller limited to 15mph and we are all set by law

Again this is correct. Not sure why you are suggesting with tongue in cheek.

You said "Or you could choose to put around 800W through a 250W rated motor like most of us here and be perfectly legal and safe."

 

This may be perfectly legal but safety is up to the rider, not the law.

As in it's perfectly safe to put 800W through a 250W rated motor. With the necessary adjustments.

As in it's perfectly safe to put 800W through a 250W rated motor. With the necessary adjustments.

 

What do you mean by 'necessary adjustments'?

What do you mean by 'necessary adjustments'?

 

Like making sure motor won't overheat or like you have a battery able to provide required current safely.