Great. It looks like I will have all the fittings that I will need and I will be able to sort it out when the package arrives. Thanks for working it out. I'll let you know how I get on.

I am unsure as to which mounting adaptor for the HB100 I should order. I might as well do the job properly.

 

By the way - I also think my cheapy wired odometer/speedometer is an improvement. It works very well and was so cheap it's mad not to have one. £4.44!

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404967911573?itmmeta=01J8MRCB47HDA673XPFT9NHWTP&hash=item5e49f7f095:g:K5sAAOSwK2JmPHUj

 

I measured the circumference of the wheel exactly by sticking a small paper label on the sidewall of the front tyre, drawing a mark on it with a pen and rolling the wheel indoors on a laminate floor until the mark was pointing exactly down. Then I stuck another paper label (or a bit of one) onto the laminate and drawing a mark exactly beside the one on the wheel, then I rolled the bike one exact wheel revolution, and stuck another bit of a label to the floor and made a pen mark opposite the wheel mark. It is very easy to measure the circumference with a tape. In this case the wheel was exactly 1540 mm in circumference. Programmed that into the odometer with the two buttons and I now have a very accurate speedo and odometer.

 

Now done 256 miles on it. No regrets. Very good buy and getting some good aerobic exercise on the uphill bits which pleases the G/f.

Did you roll your wheel with normal riding load applied? Could be a few mm of radius error!

Did you roll your wheel with normal riding load applied? Could be a few mm of radius error!

 

 

No. I didn't allow for tyre compression either.

 

How heavy do you think I am?

 

I really only wanted to have a record of how far I was going on the bike, and was vaguely curious about what speed the PAS2 of 3 cut off at. This data does not need to be accurate to the third decimal point...

 

I know you were joking.

By the way - I also think my cheapy wired odometer/speedometer is an improvement. It works very well and was so cheap it's mad not to have one. £4.44!

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404967911573?itmmeta=01J8MRCB47HDA673XPFT9NHWTP&hash=item5e49f7f095:g:K5sAAOSwK2JmPHUj

 

 

Think i paid a few quid more about 20-25 yrs ago for mine, And its still going strong even after loosing the battery enclosure back and replacing it with a bit of folded hdpe milk carton to wedge the coin cell in place.

 

If you go ali express they are sub £1 with free pnp..

 

fww I chalk the tyre and roll the bike to measure the circumference, close enough for me..

Think i paid a few quid more about 20-25 yrs ago for mine, And its still going strong even after loosing the battery enclosure back and replacing it with a bit of folded hdpe milk carton to wedge the coin cell in place.

 

If you go ali express they are sub £1 with free pnp..

 

fww I chalk the tyre and roll the bike to measure the circumference, close enough for me..

You guys make things so complicated. Your phone has GPS in it. Do a ride and compare the difference in distance, and/or ride at a constant speed and see the difference.

You guys make things so complicated. Your phone has GPS in it. Do a ride and compare the difference in distance, and/or ride at a constant speed and see the difference.

 

Wouldn't that be FAR more complicated?

Wouldn't that be FAR more complicated?

What, look at your phone and bike computer before you go for a ride and look at them again when you get back? Don't you do that anyway?

What dig out a fone buy a sim card spend half an hour working out how to use it then download the apps you need giving them permission to overtake your phone or they wont install.. And where was i going??

What, look at your phone and bike computer before you go for a ride and look at them again when you get back? Don't you do that anyway?

 

No.

 

I get on the bike and go out for a ride.

I want my riding to be an uncomplicated pleasure - which it generally is.

 

Besides - messing about with my telephone would not easily tell me the mileage covered if I was estimating battery consumption, nor would it tell me my speed as I ride along. I am quite sure that I could make it do those things, if I could be bothered to mess about, but putting a very cheap handlebar device on the bike and fastening a signal wire to the handlebar post and fork with a few cable ties is very easy and a one off five minute job.

 

I thought it would be handy to have an odometer that would clock up the miles I rode and also showed me at what speed the different PAS levels operated at. The device was I thought very cheap on ebay, though Larkbox has pointed out I could have got it for about a quid on Ali Express rather than four pounds and a few pennies.

Fwiw mine cost circa £20 and caused a row with the then g/f as that should have been spent on her that evening..

 

And i have a LONG and dire history with mobile phones and an unusual aversion- my problem, but my first phone almost ended me up in bankruptcy with a 15k debt i was unaware of in 89.....

What dig out a fone buy a sim card spend half an hour working out how to use it then download the apps you need giving them permission to overtake your phone or they wont install.. And where was i going??

That's what I mean about making things complicated. You're nuts not to already have and use a smartphone because it makes everything simple when you have it all in one place - camera, navigation, comms, internet, banking, shopping, cctv, health monitoring, front door answering, watch films, calculator, clock, calendar, notes, central heating, ride tracker, book reading, music, radio, TV, weather, car stuff and more. I have all those apps and I'm still in control of my phone.

 

Yes, they share data about you, but so does everything else you do. Soon you will not be able to leave your front door without the event being recorded somewhere. Already, your phone is tracking your every movement, otherwise you wouldn't be able to make calls. You can't do anything about all that, so use it to your advantage.

That's what I mean about making things complicated. You're nuts not to already have and use a smartphone because it makes everything simple when you have it all in one place - camera, navigation, comms, internet, banking, shopping, cctv, health monitoring, front door answering, watch films, calculator, clock, calendar, notes, central heating, ride tracker, book reading, music, radio, TV, weather, car stuff and more. I have all those apps and I'm still in control of my phone.

 

Yes, they share data about you, but so does everything else you do. Soon you will not be able to leave your front door without the event being recorded somewhere. Already, your phone is tracking your every movement, otherwise you wouldn't be able to make calls. You can't do anything about all that, so use it to your advantage.

The day is fast approaching when i will have no recourse but to pay to allow any tom dick or harry annoy me at any time of the day and be reminded of programmer hubris every time i want to add an app to the device.

Just to carry out day to day tasks..

 

Im fully aware of the benefits just not ready to pay all the costs just yet.. for the last 20 yrs carrying a phone has been my decision and ive decided not to.

 

There was a time a very long time 3 of us shared the responsibility for 24/7/365 support for clinical systems installed up and down the UK, So out of hours calls were the things of nightmares. Thankfully none ever landed. but even so decades later an unexpected call will make me panic for a second.

 

But for now at least i can decide when and where a phone is useful to carry and pick up a simpler device and plug in a £5(probably £10 minimum now?) sim card when i want to make or receive a call or txt.

( well it was only when i was driving i would carry a car phone for the aa, arranging final meet ups and coordinating if running late etc.. and the car has been parked up growing moss n lichen and housing spiders since covid. )

Best to plan for the unforseen. I was grateful of a phone after a badger unavoidably dived out of a hole in a roadside hedge directly under my front bicycle wheel, breaking my wrist. Beware of badgers!

Best to plan for the unforseen. I was grateful of a phone after a badger unavoidably dived out of a hole in a roadside hedge directly under my front bicycle wheel, breaking my wrist. Beware of badgers!

Valid point tho my routes are all well populated and even tho i may well end up the subject of a video before a call is made.. but if that changes and i venture out where less populated I will follow your advice.

Valid point tho my routes are all well populated and even tho i may well end up the subject of a video before a call is made.. but if that changes and i venture out where less populated I will follow your advice.

 

That badger attacked my front wheel less than half a mile away from the town center! Many cars swerved around me lying there in the road. A very elderly occultist couple eventualy stopped and offered aid. I wish I had called for a taxi instead TBH. Kindness of strangers does exist but those strangers could be very strange indeed. There really should have been "BEWARE OF DIVING BADGERS! " signs. Too late to attempt suing the council.

 

The brake calipers I ordered from AliExpress arrived during the week in Newcastle so I have them now. When I get back to my Argos Bargain folder, probably on Saturday, i will fit them, starting with the back brake, which is the most problematic one.

 

Really nice looking castings. They look to be rather good quality for the £25 a pair price tag (including postage). I saw the same brakes on ebay for £25 each - sometimes more, and the AliExpress ones only took five days to arrive. The delivery charge was some trivial amount for a five day, 5000 mile journey about a fiver.

Well - we're all different and prize different things, but I take a different view to connectivity than you do, though i agree about resenting intrusions when they happen. But if you don't dish out your number willy-nilly, you don't get many calls. The same goes for email addresses. Keep the circulation as low as possible and intrusions from scammers are very rare.

 

Three years ago, i foolishly ventured on a cross country ebike adventure on a god forsaken moor in Kielder Forest. The terrain got worse and worse at a place called Scotchcoultard Waste. The name should have piqued my survival instinct, but as the landscape turned more and more alien, with huge two foot high and wide nodules of centuries old moss, the sunk costs problem took over my thinking - i would not turn back, and i shouldered the ebike, which could nolonger be pushed or dragged, and I stumbled onward.

 

it was July, and the sun was hot. After two hours of this, and covering perhaps a mile, i was drained, desperate for water, and pretty cheesed off. I was rather glad to be able to call up a map on my mobile, and use the GPS on the map to work out the shortest and least harsh way to a forest road. I had no signal, but i had downloaded the map earlier. I really think if i had been taken ill there, i would still be lying as a skeleton in that wasteland. I was so thirsty that i almost got down on hands and knees to drink like a dog from a puddle when i found one.

 

I was seventy then, and still have my old Mountain Leadership Certificate, so I knew better than to put myself in that position, but I had just got the ebike and had set out from home without preparation for a random , cross country ride. What an idiot! But the phone's smart features got me out of it.

 

The other thing is that you can get incredibly cheap contracts from companies like Giffgaff, so having the phone, once you've bought one is really cheap.

 

Not this place, but a little bit like it:

 

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Yeah you don't have to spend much on a phone or contract. My RWG contract I think was £35 for two years so less than £2 a month for 250 minutes and 2GB data which is ample for me. I have BT broadband which has free wifi access all over the place anyway. At the moment the price is £50 for 2 years but they seem to regularly have 20% off promotions that brings it down to £40. I shall top mine up next time there is a 20% off. I'm about halfway through my 2 years at the moment. I have a Redmi Pro 10 phone which I bought from cashconverters for £80. It has 4K video with stabilisation and a 108MP sensor camera, a state of the art sensor at the time. It's full retail price was about £200 when new. I see these people with multiple thousand pound contracts for the latest iphone with a huge amount of minutes and data and I personally don't see the point. It's hugely damaging to our economy and some of the people I've known in the past who have iphones seem to live their life paying huge amounts of interest on their credit card, often they don't save and live in rented accommodation. They just seem to waste huge amounts of money so they can have the latest fashionable thing. Some of the latest iphones actually have quite poor cameras compared to some budget/mid range models. I saw a recent new phone on hotukdeals and it had a decent spec for £80. You really don't need to spend much to get a capable smart phone nowadays.

 

https://www.rwgmobile.wales/webshop/offers/2-year-sim-250-mins-250-sms-2gb-data-every-month-for-24-months-one-off-charge/

 

https://www.mi.com/uk/product/redmi-note-10-pro/

Yeah you don't have to spend much on a phone or contract. My RWG contract I think was £35 for two years so less than £2 a month for 250 minutes and 2GB data which is ample for me. I have BT broadband which has free wifi access all over the place anyway. At the moment the price is £50 for 2 years but they seem to regularly have 20% off promotions that brings it down to £40. I shall top mine up next time there is a 20% off. I'm about halfway through my 2 years at the moment. I have a Redmi Pro 10 phone which I bought from cashconverters for £80. It has 4K video with stabilisation and a 108MP sensor camera, a state of the art sensor at the time. It's full retail price was about £200 when new. I see these people with multiple thousand pound contracts for the latest iphone with a huge amount of minutes and data and I personally don't see the point. It's hugely damaging to our economy and some of the people I've known in the past who have iphones seem to live their life paying huge amounts of interest on their credit card, often they don't save and live in rented accommodation. They just seem to waste huge amounts of money so they can have the latest fashionable thing. Some of the latest iphones actually have quite poor cameras compared to some budget/mid range models. I saw a recent new phone on hotukdeals and it had a decent spec for £80. You really don't need to spend much to get a capable smart phone nowadays.

 

https://www.rwgmobile.wales/webshop/offers/2-year-sim-250-mins-250-sms-2gb-data-every-month-for-24-months-one-off-charge/

 

https://www.mi.com/uk/product/redmi-note-10-pro/

You don't have to spend hundreds of pounds on a smartphone. This Samsung A15 is only £62 brand new. Used ones are a lot less and work just as well.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/146057463279?_skw=samsung+a15&itmmeta=01J9B8B89GDCF6DWVYGTR78H9C&hash=item2201b405ef:g:8B8AAOSwcSFm9cJ7&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKnyMNshD6UqndbxFIyxPmdyeVnb83EDm2Dx2ZSvNmXlxss3V%2F5JY%2BBGtGNIBojsLO8ZndT1bAx7s%2FyCkQHp0IIMQrlRqjEN1%2BC0c1KWpNgxL%2BG2XMODrF01bznXkfZlskMG%2BApc581xVMmuKAxoMETUFhglZYYCe%2FdQ0voE2SSINI5qqaFj2gqhLhX3wS%2F49E4rLvzc9HXmMdnnZwoDNpmIfwJkqS8CHMbQVCUQzJwHll%2B4KFSNYaCHjAjNPGh1xl9Qqlry725kZcu7NdAVsjLG%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-iErejKZA

What dig out a fone buy a sim card spend half an hour working out how to use it then download the apps you need giving them permission to overtake your phone or they wont install.. And where was i going??

 

I did eventually find a couple of GPS speed measuring apps which claim they don't leech data from my phone, but haven't used them yet. I wanted to do a comparison with my display, also measure altitude. GPS we can access is hobbled, can't measure to within inches like military GPS, therefore not exactly accurate anyway. Best way to measure speed may be to be continuously ride past radar gun toting bored donut eating coffee slurping cops, until the donuts have all been consumed and they're full of the requisite frenzied aggressive energy to put things right as they see it.

Edited October 4, 20241 yr by guerney

You don't have to spend hundreds of pounds on a smartphone. This Samsung A15 is only £62 brand new. Used ones are a lot less and work just as well.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/146057463279?_skw=samsung+a15&itmmeta=01J9B8B89GDCF6DWVYGTR78H9C&hash=item2201b405ef:g:8B8AAOSwcSFm9cJ7&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKnyMNshD6UqndbxFIyxPmdyeVnb83EDm2Dx2ZSvNmXlxss3V%2F5JY%2BBGtGNIBojsLO8ZndT1bAx7s%2FyCkQHp0IIMQrlRqjEN1%2BC0c1KWpNgxL%2BG2XMODrF01bznXkfZlskMG%2BApc581xVMmuKAxoMETUFhglZYYCe%2FdQ0voE2SSINI5qqaFj2gqhLhX3wS%2F49E4rLvzc9HXmMdnnZwoDNpmIfwJkqS8CHMbQVCUQzJwHll%2B4KFSNYaCHjAjNPGh1xl9Qqlry725kZcu7NdAVsjLG%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-iErejKZA

 

Two auction days still to go, I reckon it'll sell for about £100.

 

My OnePlus 5 is a great phone, does everything I need, including breaking the law by recording all calls automatically without consent. My only gripe is they didn't completely code API support for the camera sensor, which means I can't use Filmic Pro. It can now be bought "B" grade secondhand unlocked from Cex for £62. When OnePlus eventually stops issuing updates, I'll probably install LineageOS or some other open source OS. Bootloader is unlocked.

Edited October 4, 20241 yr by guerney

Zoom xtech 100, hydraulic calipers fitted.

 

No big deal to do the job. A bit fiddly getting enough clearance on the front one with my combination bike allen key multi tool, when bolting the caliper up on the mounts. The fat tool kept fouling on the mudguard stays and spokes. Better tool would have made it very easy.

 

The brakes free off completely and grip the disc as expected. They will need bedding in. They are not as good as my fully hydraulic system on my Specialised BBS01 bike, because of the drag in the cable which is routed through the frame, but they have the huge advantage of pushing both pads and don't try to bend the disc to use the non driven pad as did the mechanical system on the original brakes. Only ridden a couple of miles with them and they obviously need to get bedded in.

 

The product works and is cheap. Nothing not to like about that.

 

Thanks to Saneagle for doing the research and making it easy to upgrade by ordering from his link at the top of the thread.

I was rather surprised to see this mis-labelling down near the bottom bracket of my £245 Argos ebike.

 

 

345Kw is about 510 horse power.

 

This bike would maybe put out 250 watts when fully charged on a good day. Saneagle has looked at the controller which has a max of 8 amps.

 

8 amps at 36 volts is 288 watts peak. The likely output power will be in the region of 80% of that - if you are lucky - that means 230 watts out at the wheel.

 

I wonder if this is part of the reason the bikes were so cheap!

 

Still enjoying mine. It is just on 500 miles so far. No problems aside form the initial sticky power switch which was sorted by squirting wd40 into the gap between the switch button and the casing.

 

EDIT:

 

Oh - I forgot teh snapped pedal, but to be fair, I had dropped the bike twice on that side, so the plastic had seen some abuse.

Ironic for such a low power machine, but technically non-compliant!

I was rather surprised to see this mis-labelling down near the bottom bracket of my £245 Argos ebike.

 

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345Kw is about 510 horse power.

 

This bike would maybe put out 250 watts when fully charged on a good day. Saneagle has looked at the controller which has a max of 8 amps.

 

8 amps at 36 volts is 288 watts peak. The likely output power will be in the region of 80% of that - if you are lucky - that means 230 watts out at the wheel.

 

I wonder if this is part of the reason the bikes were so cheap!

 

Still enjoying mine. It is just on 500 miles so far. No problems aside form the initial sticky power switch which was sorted by squirting wd40 into the gap between the switch button and the casing.

Have you found the secret button yet. When you do, don't press it unless the road is clear in front of you for at least a mile.

Have you found the secret button yet. When you do, don't press it unless the road is clear in front of you for at least a mile.

 

I'd be worried about what 510 horse power would do to that rear tyre.