October 4, 20241 yr I took the throttle off my full sized ebike (BBS01) because I could not programme it to be fully legal in my version of the firmware. There are very few occasions where I miss it. As Guerney says though, you do need to ensure in a hilly place that you come to a halt in the right gear so you can pedal off when you start again. I reckon it's possible with your firmware version too, but I removed my throttle to avoid some know-nothing bozo cop causing problems owing to it's mere existence. If cops tested for throttled speed with the rear wheel off the ground, it'll probably fail because speed is all over the place when doing that, depends on what gear you're using... but in use the current controlled throttle limits speed to less than 6km/h. Climbs hills at a little more than 4.3kph or thereabouts. Difficult to balance climbing this slow on a 20" wheeled bike.
October 4, 20241 yr As requested… [ATTACH=full]60058[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]60059[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]60060[/ATTACH]I know!!! All the best, David Silly rule! What's the maximum size a front bumper can legally be? Fat lot of good that tiny thing's going to do.
October 4, 20241 yr This made no difference though, any CG125 that had not been taken for the test had to pay the ULEZ charge. Just another aspect of the criminal conspiracy of Kahn's fiefdom. You do know that ULEZ was thought up by Boris Johnson and forwarded by the conservative party while he was mayor. If Khan wins, if some tory wins, or whomever takes the mayor election its still going to be implemented at such and such a date, But credit where credit is due. ULEZ is a tory concept first and foremost
October 4, 20241 yr Silly rule! What's the maximum size a front bumper can legally be? Fat lot of good that tiny thing's going to do. This protection obsession dates back to when motorcycles AND assisted bicycles had front number plates, nicely placed to slice a pedestrian into two. They got rid of those and have never stopped looking at two wheelers ever since. Edited October 4, 20241 yr by flecc
October 5, 20241 yr Author Don't forget they are technically mopeds, so different rules apply. I don't have mudguards, kickstand and balls on my brakes, but no throttle either. I learned to ride without it and don't miss it that much really. They aren't technically mopeds surely as you can ride them anywhere a normal bicycle can ride with the same age restrictions and they are just the same as most ebikes in the world which do have throttles and are classed as bicycles. I can understand that in the legislation you can make the point that its bit from this legislation and bit from the other its sort of a mixture of legislation but ultimately these ebikes are the same as sold elsewhere in the world as electric assisted bicycles. It was just a workaround in the UK to get around the awful moronic EU legislation. Across Asia, South America, Africa etc twist and go throttle based ebikes are the norm. Admittedly in China for example there are weight restrictions and other factors that would make some of our ebikes illegal in their market like the very heavy dual suspension mid-drive motor ebikes because of their weight restrictions etc (20kg) plus I think they have a true wattage limit of 400W so again would be illegal but as a general rule twist and go throttles are legal for most people in the world. I have to say 20kg weight limit and 400W true limit seems much more sensible than what we have in Europe with regard legislation for the criteria of a electrically assisted bicycle when you think about walking down a single lane path and a huge ebike around 30kg is coming your way (peddled) at 25mph be it a mid-drive or hub motor ebike. I think in Canada and US their legislation for ebikes was set up for throttle control but allow pedelec type ebikes. I watched a video about an ebike factory in China and they make videos of their ebikes only on rough ground where its legal for them to be ridden as if they showed them on the road it would be illegal. They make many ebikes they can never use themselves on the road. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws
October 5, 20241 yr Author This protection obsession dates back to when motorcycles AND assisted bicycles had front number plates, nicely placed to slice a pedestrian into two. They got rid of those and have never stopped looking at two wheelers ever since. [ATTACH type=full" alt="1957-Triumph-twenty-one-lead-1100x626.jpg]60071[/ATTACH] What a beautiful vehicle that is.
October 6, 20241 yr They aren't technically mopeds surely as you can ride them anywhere a normal bicycle can ride with the same age restrictions and they are just the same as most ebikes in the world which do have throttles and are classed as bicycles. "The new class for Twist & Go EAPCs is called "250W LPM", a sub-category of the standard "Low Powered Moped", which is the L1e-A category which T&G EAPCs fell into before. The new edition of the test manual reduces the requirements somewhat for this new sub-category. For example, a kickstand is still required, but it does not have to auto-retract. Moped-like mirrors are now not required, etc., etc. Basically almost any legal pedelec meets the requirements, but check the PDF manual linked to below: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/821685/motorcycle-single-vehicle-approval-inspection-manual.pdf "
October 8, 20241 yr This protection obsession dates back to when motorcycles AND assisted bicycles had front number plates, nicely placed to slice a pedestrian into two. They got rid of those and have never stopped looking at two wheelers ever since. [ATTACH type=full" alt="1957-Triumph-twenty-one-lead-1100x626.jpg]60071[/ATTACH] Ooh, had one of them, 1959 Thunderbird. Stripped the crap off, including the kiddy slicer and fitted a Bonneville twin carb head and 10:1 pistons. Zoom zoom. Sold it with all the bits and it was rebuilt by an enthusiast.
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