Jeremy
Hi Jeremy,
You say to accuse something from tampering, why would you call that accusing i dont see anything wrong with that myself, but i suppose the way i worded things might look like an accusation, but its not, same goes for you Flecc what do i care if you would get commision you would be quite stupid not to grab that for i can assure you i would if i had the chance so no i did not insinuate that you would be dishonest, ah well.
Anyway regarding tampering for why by far i find that very acceptable let me explain why it can even be a necessity, in the NL a bike, when a helmet is required, is allowed up to the absurd speed of 30 whole miles an hour, but in the cities cars are allowed to do roughly 38 miles/hour (50km/hour in metrics, 45km hour for the bikes) only they dont do 38 miles/hour no make that easily 45-50miles an hour there i come with my snaillike 30mile/hour bike having the duty to drive on the street instead of previously the bicycle path that makes cars very impatient starting to push me aside, horning, geting irritated making me hit the street literally resulting in some idiot doing that and he saw me going down stopped 50 yards further saw me crawling up and drove on until i found the same idiot and made quite clear i was not pleased, details aside well plainly dangerous.
Now this sounds opposite yes, but my light bike(180lbs weight, 82 kilo's) does roughly 60miles/hour making it safer in trafic being able to keep up with the cars, except for one thing when cops would see that and grab me goodbye bike well what i know about the max allowed UK speed for an ebike is 17miles/hour right, that's a speed i consider as more then plenty in fact when no helmet is required AND using bicycle paths allowed, still those 17miles/hour doable on a flat road without wind always and consistent?
Doubtfull therefore if some tampering by making the max output say 800 watts thereby creating the possibility to atleast always maintain those 17miles/hour if wanted, until the battery gives up ofcourse, does not look inappropriate to me, but ofcourse that is also against the law in the UK right.
Anyway so far my reasons for why i see nothing wrong about tampering when that's taken as an accusation when it was not meant as such then so be it i dont withdraw one word when i didn't mean something, but taken as such, however i could have elaborated some more about my own ideas about tampering or souping up a bike.
What you explain me about electrical motors is quite interesting stuff i know as good as nothing about electrical motors as opposed to the gasoline ones obviously. So in that case i withdraw my words towards Flecc regarding peakpower statements and such, because he is undeniably right so gone words from my side.
Ow really so for the law only the average power counts so when on or below 250 watts no problem when the peak would generate a few kilowatts well that is a luxury in my view when you know how to deal with those electrical motors something i dont else i would give Gaynor's bike the required treatment, but except for fixing the breaks i would not dare to touch the electrical system.
I remember beginning this year when i liked to make the distance from the lever to the handle smaller in order the break would bite faster and stronger by screwing the steelwire inside that black tube you know more to the outside well perfect the break worked better, but the motor wouldn't work anymore for apparantly by extenting the distance from the beginning from that black small tube off the point it gets into the hole also extended a wire a tiny bit to far and contact was prevented so an easy fix that's not the point only when that's the result of simply re adjusting that break well.
Btw i noticed the word 'break' is written like 'brake' here i thought the english word for brake is break, but probably not when everybody used the word 'brake'. My real name btw is Freek not some handle to pronounce as 'frake' made me think about 'brake.'.
No definately not that Gaynor has a perfect example of an ebike like you call them and sure i know there is a lot wrong with the thing talking the electrical system only, but when you mention 'something very simple fixed' yes why not, but by whom so i mean could anybody do that like me for example with the right instructions or would this be a simple job for somebody specialized only?
Another issue is that Gaynor's battery is as good as gone(those words i base on the exceeded 600 times charging and emptying, including the few miles max and its over) so its whether a new battery AND a complete restauration of the electrical system else for approx. 750 pounds i get her a motorised bike, a new one ofcourse from an Asian brand aside from Japan, those are allowed to do about the same 17miles/hour in the NL and dont require a helmet, but a huge difference is that such a thing delivers about 2,200 watts aside from that gas in and you are fine for the next more or less 150 miles.
Now i got to hear that such biketypes do require some sort of special license in the UK right and ofcourse need to be insured OR they are plainly not allowed just that info i could never find anywhere and in fact i think Gaynor would be better of with a DECENT ebike as opposed to a gasoline bike for those have their own specific, simple, matters, its just a world of difference.
Now i saw Flecc naming the Giant type, the Twist one, only that's the peak output i see there i believe based on the peak output from the Quando being 576 watts so 400 watts are even less, but those Giants do have gearing so in one of the lowest gears plus a push in the back from the motor it would be easy to take also steep hills like the ones in Hastings.
The battery size from those Giants is about 1/3 from he Quando battery, dont know for sure about the following words, but i would suspect that this comes down to a shorter batterylife after being charged not shorter in the sense of the total lifetime.
Anyway those cost 1,100 euros that's ehh 900 pounds estimated (btw for people in the UK be warned that the pound does drop very fast in value compared to the euro for seven months ago 150 euros delivered 103 pounds now the same 150 euros deliver 134 pounds) that's doable for a piece of quality would be received then and regardless that lots have other ideas about quality i dont consider the Quando as a real quality ebike.
The gasoline bikes made in Asia, China mainly, are extremely cheap for a Yamaha like mine takes 2,100 euros new, but those cheap ones go for 800 euros only they are NOT considered as quality bikes.
Anyway to get to a conclusion here for throwing bad words to one another is useless obviously not something i am pleased about, but what i think would be best in Gaynor's case is to fix up her Quando sell it for maybe 400 pounds add 500 and get a Giant. People already offered her more then those 400 quid in her bike's current miserable state, but she is honest and makes clear its a piece of crap including dangerous that's makes her a load more honest then certain 'salesmen', crooks would be the word, in this country who sell motorized really lifethreatening pieces of crap to unknowingly people using their ignorance then when still alive without bones broken and come to complain its 'didn't know that must be your fault', damned mofo's, sorry an unneeded detail in fact.
Now what would be thought about that so fixing up her Quando so that it can be sold to be followed by buying a Giant in the UK with euros making the 1,100 euros here below 900 euros in the UK for such a Giant, i guess.
You know Jeremy fixing up her bike means in the first place a new 300 pound battery including well i really have no idea maybe a 100 pound worth fixing fee in such a case fixing it aside from a new battery selling it and get a Giant would be most beneficial, agreed?
Ow yeah one last thing about the tampering, about whom i accused nobody from, you say 'untrue in the case of a Quando', but why if i may ask not possible to get that motor to generate more watts? Like i said i know zip about electrical motors and their properties aside from how they work basically including some electricity knowledge it general, but there it really stops.
Excuse me i said 'one last thing', but this is really the very last thing and that is if there is a way to make sure a battery is at it's end for i do know a lithium ion battery can be charged and emptied 500-600 times, maybe more when at first the proper pre cautions are taken, but alright if i could get a few answers and opinions then that would be highly appreciated, thanks.
Regards, Freek.
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