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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1217816/John-Curtice-labour-party-exit-poll-election-results-2019-lbc-news-results-latest-update Yes, its reported in Express but bloke writing report has no allegiance one way or another. Report also informs us very few voters actually switched from Labour to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, m afraid much of society has gone same. Tick box promotions, PC targets and snowflake perceptions. Labour seem to typify it. I didnt vote for Boris but in some ways he, s a breath of fresh air, even his couldnt care less background and womanising. He is far from PC. I, m reserving judgement...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, ve got great news. Instead of me blaming Labour, Flecc blaming tories and OG blaming everybody, Uri Geller has stepped forward to accept responsibility. He, s to blame for Boris, Cameron, Brexit and demise of Labour. He gave some energized spoon to Tories thats the cause of all the problems...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Why its happened matters a lot. If Labour dont learn from the lessons they will never get in power and leave Tories to run amock for next 30 years. Agreed, me and thee might be pastures new... Like Eintein said... Reality is just a persistent illusion.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We should be running country. Pedelec Party.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You dont understand the level of hate against Tories in Rothervalley that Labour have managed to purge. It wasnt the attraction of BJ it was the repulsion of current labour, another referendum, cheap bribes and more indecision. Tories didnt win Labour lost.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I dont get this from you OG. Many have been saying for years Labour are getting it completely wrong, when those grumbles are proved right and Labour completely collapse you blame voters?? Voters are not stupid. They saw Labour as a worse choice than Tory and that takes some doing. Just look at...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep, but why not. They won. To the victor...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, but they made it so most every fecker else did. Labour were a shambles pre election and worse now. "Voters are stupid". Says it all. Years ago I had a bigish meeting with exam boards over the shockingly bad results one of their number had achieved in GCSEs. The head of that establishment...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Its fiddling around anyway. Entire party needs to change. Unite/ Momentum must be just a part of Labour and not Labour in its entirety. If this doesnt happen Labour will be along lines of Libdem. Almost an insignificance.. A holder of balance of power at best and never the power itself. But...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    From a low of 1.206 in August...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Meanwhile in the real world https://www.cityam.com/ftse-100-rises-on-trade-war-and-uk-election-optimism/ And pound jumped a fair chunk. Even Carney making positive noises.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think the WASPI bribes lost credibility for Corbyn. Its timing was poor, planning short and intended targets unlikely to generate sympathy.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There was some dispute with this. There were neither finger prints or his DNA on either gun or sack it was in. (but did there have to be?) There were reports a police man had been seen throwing a sack over fence, but I believe this statement was withdrawn. Duggan's mate was convicted of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    In that case Labour might aswell disband, give up and walk away...oh hang on a minute.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Oh, so Labour have gone in wrong direction but its Blairs fault. Thought you blamed media. Make your mind up flecc. And Blair stole nothing, Labour jumped on his bandwagon and rode it into power, they just rode another bandwagon when he became a pariah.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And given Ecclestone £25k as a WASPI payment. I, m sure someone in famaily would qualify. Honestly, I kid you not, my Mrs was lining up another trip to Goa to spend hers on diamonds. Turn the £25k into £40k overnight, even paying for flights and hotels.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    They would be perfect at moment. Nobody likes them, wrong policies and wrong image. It sums up how Labour go about things. They should be looking for right person to foster confidence, have right imsge, good policies and efficient. But no, tick some PC box. We need a woman. What if perfect...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Similar timescale to Labour being electable? Well, no actually way things are going thats never going to happen. Current criteria for next leader? A woman from outside London.....That should do it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Difference is though Flecc Tory party didnt expel Cummings, Labour did the equivalent. Besides, Boris's methods have worked, Corbyn's didnt.