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The problem is that every one, thankfully has their own choices. I find the Tonaro Bighit a really exciting looking, tough, semi military piece of kit that won't take any s..t. Eddio seems to prefer that dainty, 1890's style. Each to his own.

Is there any reason to use these very thin wires? Why not use thicker ones?

Thanks Flecc, Strange that Yamaha gave up so easily then. Or, is there some sort of tie-in between Yamaha and Tonaro?

Frank, bit of an outside one this. On another thread, d8veh says that there should only be 1mm gap between the magnet ring on the left hand crank and the sensor. Try checking yours. Also, as you know, I have swung my pedal sensor up out of the way and am now throttle only.I used to get these...

To have a successful export trade you need a good home market. With the odd Japanese laws which badly restrict e-bike performance, Yamaha and Panasonic probably had too small a domestic market to share between them. Contrast this to the huge, largely unrestricted Chinese market of the time...

Yeah, another one that mysteriously "needs a battery"

Totally with you on this one Eddio. (And when Eddio and Tonaros get mixed, that is a rarity!!!!

But complicated does not necessarily mean more advanced. After all, a knife and fork works just fine. I could conceive of some sort of implement with a vacuum device for picking up food, a tube for peas, a 'pre-macerator' for tough steak, a 'solidifier' for liquids etc. As Flecc says, an elegant...

Yes, I have seen a couple more. The weather in Swansea at the moment is wet so not many out on bikes.

In practice, on my Tonaro around Swansea which is fairly hilly, I only use gears 2, 4,6 and 8. Occaisionally I use number 3. I only have used 1 on a very steep hill at Mumbles pier. So what advantage would this nuvinci hub give me?

I don't think that you can weld a magnet.I think they lose their magnetism! I suppose that if you put two on the wheel it will restrict to 7 and a half MPH. A Tonaro rally sounds great! count me in.

For me, the need for such complication and expense to achieve what? is off-set by the simplicity, ease of maintenance and repair, and low cost of a derailleur.

Strangely, the NSU came after a 250 (BSA C10L), 350 BSA B32, 197 James and a few others. But I preferred it for its light weight, comparative silence and general reliability. After all, the lights worked! Not the usual British choice of :-Dim, flicker and off. Notice how much longer the wheel...

From the many bikes and motor bikes that I have had, these two are my favourites

Flecc, You forgot to add the terrible blight upon the landscape of wind turbines. Already, parts of Wales have been scarred. Also, there is no mention of the turbulence, but I for one can sometimes feel a sort of thrumming in high winds up to 10 miles down wind of the things. And this is just a...

Of course, we do have electric bikes. Tempting to make something up with a 40,000volt car coil!!!

I don't know if I am looking at it correctly, but it seems that the chain barely contacts the chain ring? Also, does the engine heat up under full power? Mike.

From Wiki Polaris Industries is a manufacturer of snowmobiles, ATV, and neighborhood electric vehicles. Polaris is based in Medina, Minnesota, USA. The company also manufactures motorcycles through its Victory Motorcycles subsidiary and through the Indian Motorcycle subsidiary which it purchased...

Usual wall of words to disguise its deficiencies. They are trying to sell a high end product to the Yacht and Rolls Royce crowd on...ebay?

This is always the problem. Do you buy now, or wait a year? There are rumours of German advances and new things in China.