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Where does it say this? Interesting because it could mean it's OK to have a 16.31mph bike (useful for zealous police -in Holland they have portable moped speed test ramps).

I've written them a second email regarding l Well done for finding these - amazing. Rather than pore through their implications (though i did read the minutes..) I've put about 16 quite carefully worded questions in two emails to the European Commission's "Europe Direct" portal to let them...

God only knows what happened here. EE, the UK mobile phone company, have been handing out free 18650s encased in a plastic USB charger, and one of them blew up and set someone's flat alight, burning her when she tried to put the flames out. Perhaps EE's buyer got the batteries off...

Got it. Thanks. So a 48v 350w bpm insides could in principle go into a 36v 250w (350w) cst,but not say the 500w insides. I see some issues with the cartridge mechanism, are these difficult to overcome?

I was just wondering if this applies to a variety of motors generally, well, specifically the bafang cst 250w 180 mm,and even more specifically, whether the insides of a nice cheap 350w (or even 500w) bpm or bpm2 or any other motor from that family could fit it please? I haven't burnt mine out...

True, to both, I mean even 50 or 100 miles would be alright and yes 8kg seems properly heavy - but here's a question - to avoid the even greater weight of a spare battery, is it possible and healthy for the li-ion battery to be recharged while being used?

I was just wondering this, having discovered this cheap 8kg generator for £140 new. I'm wondering whether to buy a second battery knowing the charger on top will add a kilo (the EMC-180 weighs 900g, not sure about the S180 from bmsb), or just say heck, get a generator. Stick it on the rear...

I hear you. I've written to "Europe Direct" now so hopefully should get an answer soon. :-)

Haha this just relates to L1e-A (possibly) types, i.e. mega-ebikes, so your bike is safe... for now! Until Brussels seizes power once and for all! ;)

I really liked this idea when I read your post, but after thought, I realise it would not only fulfil the conditions for all of the relevant driving-without-insurance and related offences, but also perverting the course of justice, by fabricating evidence(!) :eek: I may try to qualify as a...

Oh dear that doesn't sound encouraging!

Yes that phrase "motor vehicle" definitely doesn't seem a term of art contained in the Regulation or the Directive. It's a bit tricky to match it with the EU law. I think he means that above that speed will be L1e-A ("[a] light two-wheel powered vehicle"). The Drivers Licence page here says that...

Wow. That's a big deal re the DFT requiring L1e-A approval for ordinary pedelecs. Would you have a link to anything where they state this, please, so I can have a look at what's happened?

Looks like the transitional EU law provision is Directive 2002/24/EC. Just saw this useful guide to direct effect: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=URISERV:l14547&from=EN

Oh - L1e-A has an annoying vague phrase - that the motor power (250w-1000w) should have its "primary" aim be to aid pedalling. Surely this cannot mean pedelec-only? I hope not. Mind you if I'm right about the "handicapped" bit then it shouldn't matter, touch wood. (edit - I'm not sure) It...

Thanks guys, much appreciated :) Very interesting and helpful. Flecc glad you pointed me to Regulation 168/2013, I've been having a read. This bit is interesting. "Article 2: Scope .... 2. This Regulation does not apply to the following vehicles.... (b) vehicles exclusively intended for use...

It sounds like using a throttle abroad on a sub 250-watt bike then would require either low power moped single vehicle approval + insurance + the whole kaboodle, or after jan require... i don't know what. Is there a particular person in a govt agency who has been helpful over any of this who I...

Thanks - very helpful of you. Do you know where I could look at any of these draft documents, or any other info, please? I am really struggling to find anything on any of this on the web. Do you know what bill the legislation is part of, or any other info so I can check the text and the...

Thanks Flecc. Do you know where I might be able to read up more about the L1e-A category please? Do you know what kind of permission we will have to use L1e-A bikes abroad, extra requirements etc?

I mean an ebike (perhaps including throttle) with pedals, per page 8 of this MSVA pdf guide ("[a] low powered moped is a 2 or 3 wheeled vehicle with pedals, auxiliary propulsion not exceeding 1kW and a maximum design speed of not more than 25 km/h.") -) How easy was getting single vehicle...