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  1. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    See my greatly edited response above, that is my answer on the subject of Covid. Put another way, your neighbour and I have not been getting the medical treatment we need because the authorities have been grossly overreacting to Covid. And it's many in the public who are driving that...
  2. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think it's about the ratio of deaths to infections, and that is now far lower then it was last year, thanks to the vaccines. Latest daily figures I just checked was almost 52,000 infections with just 49 deaths. That's 0.09%, very unwelcome but not exactly the Black Death with 33%. Influenza...
  3. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Tut, tut ! .
  4. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Why Oh dear? "We only care and share when there's spare" is true, as much as you dislike it. For example, having run out of spare, we've cut the foreign aid budget and are cutting out the Covid financial support measures. Hang around a bit longer and you'll see lots more cuts to get used...
  5. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Hull is not the only place in the country, I've seen very different elsewhere with what you quote being a minority situation. .
  6. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The world is full of shoulds and shouldn'ts, that's because we are still all animals and animals stay alive through selfishness, they don't naturally share. Thats why all our attempts at a sharing, caring society fail and are doomed to fail, the animal instinct will always out, especially with...
  7. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I can't and wouldn't comment on your situation, but I do know ours extremely well. Our government don't have th people sufficiently on side. It is not possible for our government to control beyond an insufficient level to deal with Covid. We've already proved that, and not just in connection...
  8. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Don't attribute blame to me on those, I've argued exactly the same in this forum, and both main parties are as much to blame. More completely false allegations against me and my true clearly expressed views. As for transferring a huge burden to the future, you might consider Blair's PFI as a...
  9. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I can't, but I think they are fighting an impossible battle against unfair odds: I just received an email from The Towel Shop titled "Sea you at the beach" (sic). And when I turn on the TV there's TUI and others showing happy families frolicking on exotic sunny beaches. So which is going to...
  10. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm afraid that's your over simplification. I've never had any unionised employment, certainly not during my largest rises in salaries. And lunatic though Thatcher was, her policies of wider home ownership and shareholdings were more instrumental in spreading affluence more widely than...
  11. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is obviously untrue, you haven't lived long enough. It was a government who created the NHS and it was the extreme resistance of those who eventually had to staff it first that tried so hard to stop the NHS ever coming into being, or being successful. Indeed they lost no time in bringing...
  12. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Another gross distortion of the truth. Which is that we should continue to do what is possible, which isn't everything, but cannot stop the public electing to die if that's what they are determined to do. Anyway, I wouldn't mind dying in a grove, there's far less pleasant places to die. .
  13. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You're definitely losing it! I have no ideology, the nearest I've ever got to that is markedly left wing, clearly shown by all my praise in here for Attlee's post WW2 government and its remarkable achievements. And how come you didn't notice my strongly expressed support here for Jeremy Corbyn...
  14. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed. Not any more, they can't enforce to those degrees, times change and people change with them. And for mercantile reasons one can equally read sensible fiscal policies, depending on one's point of view. They are the government our population democratically elected, knowing full well...
  15. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    One again, all criticism and no answers. All the intervention directives possible have been tried, sometimes in excess of what's possible, and they've achieved what was possible. But thats not been enough, so as I keep repeating, only the public have the one remaining answer. Unless a true...
  16. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Thank you for agreeing with me that it's been the public (amoebas) who are the major cause of Covid spread and resultant deaths. However I have to disagree that there isn't an level at whch they will change their behaviour. Where that level is I cannot know, but it does exist. Maybe the death...
  17. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    After the initial mistakes, which are history now, they did the most important things, giving the right advice, opening emergency facilities and accelerating the vaccine program. To an extent they inadvisedly eased restrictions too early a couple of times and are in danger of doing the same...
  18. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed, but as I replied to JHC, it's still the public who are by far the greatest cause of the deaths we've suffered. That is the subject we are discussing, not the health service in general. The government have done their bit on Covid as i've shown, much more than most comparable countries...
  19. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I love this extract from his speech: "I remember going to former East Germany in 1990, just after the wall had gone down, and I remember being amazed at how far behind west Germany it then was a place of strange little cars with two stroke engines and fake coffee and yet we must be honest with...
  20. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    True, our leaders have been very poor.. But I still believe the vast majority of the deaths could have been avoided by the public had they just followed the basic advice, accepted the vaccines and not treated Covid as little to worry about. After all, almost all of us discussing this here have...