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Dear oh dear, how many times? They are not protecting the NHS and public by helping the public to put themselves at severe risk by paying them not to work, but socialise and go to the beach instead. The government has just been reported on the news as making exactly my point, that only the...

In your second and last sentences you are arguing against yourself. That people cannot be trusted to protect themselves, but you all do. :D As I've pointed out, at first people won't do as advised, but as they see the consequences of what they know is their own actions, they'll soon change...

But not relevant to what I posted to OG. That the existence of NICE and its equivalent in other countries proves that all governments balance cost against lives in health care. So whether it's liked or not, every life has a cash value in a modern governed society. .

As I made clear and so did the actions of the public, that money didn't buy time. It placed people at greater risk and spread the virus much more. Don't you remember the crowded beaches and other locations as people enjoyed their greatly extended paid holidays? .

Nice job Stuart, looks very neat and tidy. .

So NICE doesn't exist? Wake up OG, every government rations health to what they can afford. They cope because they don't waste £300 billions to achieve a worse result. What Rishi Sunak did was daft as I've said before. Instead of leaving people at work with precautions where they'd be...

Almost every government is doing that, balancing deaths against cost of avoidance. And not just for Covid, it's why we have NICE deciding which medicines we can afford, not always which work best. Sorry OG, but you seem to be in a dream word where money is unlimited. It isn't, where...

I haven't said that, it's just your wrong interpretation of the impossible, imagining that it can be ignored. .

Ultimately less, but it could have been far less if they hadn't gone heavy handed last year. But what's happened has gone, we can only alter the future as individuals. The days of it being shaped by throwing money at it are no longer possible. .

I posted the below over four months ago, note my 54% in paragraph 4. Note what flecc says, not Vallance or Whitty. They are political animals who say what is expedient while keeping their crossed fingers hidden...

So you think what we've been doing has been working well? And that we should continue doing it? And that we should add another £300 billion to our national debt? All to double the failure we've achieved so far? You do realise that we've failed, don't you? Remember, doing the same thing...

I think partly from financial necessity, partly because the old way hasn't worked. Perhaps it's dawned on them that it couldn't, there were too many gaps in the armour. At the point when the first vaccinations were switched to the 40 year olds, it was mentioned that 19% of the fifties and over...

It will work, Sweden has shown that with much better outcomes than us, albeit not as good as their neighbours. If left to their own devices just with advice but without being bossed around or threatened with punishment, they as individuals and their companies will work out what brings the best...

Which leave the general public utterly baffled, reduced to guessing that more is probably better. .

Only people who liked big numbers. The widespread switch to battery powered vacuum cleaners has killed that nonsense, try designing a 2000 Watt battery powered cleaner using a typical small 20 volt battery! .

You just aren't getting it, this isn't about science or mathematics. It doesn't matter what it is, only that it is a useful size in common life. A gram isn't. Remember single numbers suit humans best. You've got to be kidding! Huge numbers of ordinary people simply don't understand these...

I haven't mentioned any of those three and agree with you on those. I can suffer those without catching anything! But you've ignored the respiratory symptoms that are common to Covid and Influenza. That was what I was referring to where the vaccine for 'flu might well help with Covid...

There's no should about it, the Imperial measures are based on common human needs, the metric are not. the Km is just as much human as the mile - No, it's arbitrary and you avoid the fact that the equivalent of the very useful foot in linear measure is missing in metric. The litre is just as...

Those are not needed in the lives of most. In the day to day lives of ordinary people, the Imperial system is vastly superior to the metric one. That's simply because it was created on a human scale to suit the lives of most, not from an entirely arbitrary measure of the earths circumference...

And the loss of the $125 million Mars climate orbiter, due to the mixing of imperial with metric: Information Link .