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One doesn't even need to leave this forum, since we have two members at least who are convinced Covid-19 doesn't exist except as a conspiracy by the authorities to control us. They are members Chainring and POLLY. In fairness there is a conspiracy by the authorities to control us. They just...

I'm not claiming any truths, just not ignoring the positive pointers. .

Exactly my opinion too, e-scooters are very obviously fun and addictive. I fear we've opened a Pandora's box by considering legalising them. .

I don't deny their importance, but the obvious response is, why haven't they previously been at the root of pandemics for decades and centuries when we've had so many vectors prior to Covid-19? .

They've already got it wrong. The belief in e-scooters of the House of Commons Transport Committee is based on their being convinced they will get drivers out of cars. Idiocy of a very high order. .

Not quite so clear cut. Woosh with his appropriate knowledge has examined the chemistry of Covid-19 and determined known factors that point to it having a likelyhood of being man made, as opposed to naturally occurring through multi animal transmission. That gives a positive start point, to...

It's the perfect time for war, without them we'd probably win much quicker. Remember the first world war maxim, heros led by donkeys. .

They are a branch of the Nanny State of course and have no more influence than that. I don't have such a gloomy view. The government is very keen on getting people out of cars and onto low speed two wheels and have made it clear they don't favour any changes that impede that. The House of...

Maybe, but I don't think we know enough yet, especially about the new variants. We'll probably know a whole lot more by Christmas. Meanwhile we can probably relax while the death rate remains very low. .

Presumably, hence the lower intended maximum speed to match what appears to be working on the Continent. The London limitations are a condition of the supplying companies permission, since the Mayor and GLC are not happy about the e-scooters safety, so speed restrictions and the online course...

I have to disagree. Remember that power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and government is absolute power. It only needs some to lead the way and corruption spreads like wildfire. Remember the expenses scandal? A few in the Commons started that long ago and it soon spread...

It won't be needed if national permission is given for owned e-scooters, since they'll be operating at a fixed compromise speed. The government has made it clear that if legalised they favour conformity with the EU (Presumably nobody has told them we've left!). That means no more 15.5 mph...

Probably not need for the trial since London's streets aren't constantly changing, just software set as they are issued. The trial zones are set of course, use only legal within them, and their range must be somewhat limited. I've no idea how they keep them charged up since they don't appear...

That's what I posted. The parameter always being what we can get away with to suit our personal desires. .

The article gets even better, exposing that someone aged 80 who is fully vaccinated has the risk of death of an unvaccinated person of around 50. Enough to make them think, why did I bother to get the vaccines? :confused: .

It's onboard GPS, zones in which the scooter's performance is cut by half. .

Plus a crowd of cyclists, head down on drop bars riding too close at daft speeds. All totally irrelevant for those of us who ride like the Dutch in complete safety. .

Well they are both human and animal like all of us, and like almost all of us if we find ourselves at the top of the herd, make the most of it. We even justify it with polite sayings like "Make hay while the sun shines", also "Strike while the iron is hot" and "Opportunity knocks but once"...

Depth of talent, certainly not, the 10 I listed (2.8%) are hardly depth out of 363 Tory MPs in the Commons. More the shallow end! But one of them could do fine as Health Minister. .

Some answers below. Basically there has always been a muddled area between what are motor vehicles and what are not, so that with the e- scooter trials is nothing new: 8mph is the limit for road going invalid carriages. - Correct Pavement ones are limited to 5mph. - No, it's 4 mph...