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  1. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Again how many times, she specifically went to join ISIS, and did, and has admitted it. Perhaps you don't remember the fuss about the terrorism act at the time, due to its all encompassing nature. Basically any action that shows support for a terrrorist or proscribed organisation indicates...
  2. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    How many times must you be shown? Yes it does. .
  3. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The evidence is in this post and in what she has admitted herself To repeat, she left with others to specifically join ISIS, she did join ISIS, she was captured with ISIS. She has said she supports them. The law forbiding that was completed in 2014, she left to do that in 2015. The new act...
  4. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is ridiculous. Begum left to join ISIS, did join ISIS and was captured with ISIS. That is more than enough to offer an opinion on her treatment and the Home Secretary agreed today that her return is not in any way certain, repeating his resolve not to put our citizens at risk. .
  5. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As I've shown just after your post, the necessary parts of the law were fully in place in 2014, Begum left for Syria to join IS in 2015. Woosh was trying to claim it was about going to Syria. It wasn't, it was about joining a proscribed terrrorist organisation which was illegal then and still...
  6. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is not about going to live in Syria, it's about joining proscribed terrrorist organisations. I understand that there was law preventing anyone joining terrrorist organisations overseas, the terrorism act being passed in year 2000. And five years ago in 2014 the UK listed Islamic State as...
  7. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    First, she has broken our law by going to Syria to join a proscribed terrorist organisation. Second, passports can be and have been revoked. Third, she is not stateless if we reject her, since she chose to join Islamic State. That won it's territory to create its state in just the way most...
  8. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As I said, we just make the best we can of whatever circumstances we find ourselves in. They aren't our choices. Maybe if Germany had won I'd have ended up succeeding Hitler in command of the Third Reich. If that sounds ridiculous, remember the Romans conquered Spain, but Spaniards Hadrian...
  9. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So what, we make what we can from the chance of where born. I could consider myself punished by being born into a dodgy climate with an impending world war to very poor parents and growing up in a cockroach infested slum, until the Germans took pity on us and bombed the place. I'd have loved...
  10. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Firstly I'm not judging her, I'm just leaving her to her choice of position which she maintains. And I'm not making assumptions, just taking her own stated position at face value. Any assumption is yours by saying muddled 15 year old. .
  11. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You were morally right, and if their God did tell them it was right, then their God was as immoral as they were and are both still. .
  12. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That isn't at issue, being born in the Middle East isn't a punishment. Where we are born and the circumstances in which we are born are matters of chance, for Begum's child as it was for all of us. .
  13. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This depends on how a child is defined and when they can make decisions. In this respect we are out of step with most of the rest of the world, even with our European neighbours. Take the age of consent, seven European countries have it at 15, seven others at 14, and one major country at 13...
  14. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not so, a clear 70% of this country were strongly opposed to going to war in Iraq and they held an all time record breaking march against it. That was emphatically not our choice, Begum's was. .
  15. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    A choice she voluntarily relinquished, see below. She's proven them twice, first by going to join IS, fully knowing their nature, second by still believing in their cause. These also preclude her making choices about her future or that of her child in the UK. Since she believes in the IS...
  16. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's not relevant though. It cannot be argued that she did not know the nature of IS and their appalling ways before going to join them. Clearly she put religious belief in the promotion of Islam by murder and worse before any scant trace of humanity. That makes her totally unacceptable in...
  17. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Blackmans case isn't relevant in any way. As you've said, his treatment by us was to say the least questionable and therefore no reliable basis on which to decide this new issue. Begum chose her path at a sufficient age to do so and doesn't wish to change her position on that. She simply...
  18. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    She still supports Islamic State and believes she did nothing wrong. At 15 years she was old enough to know exactly what she was doing. At that age and even younger many of her cultural origins have chosen to migrate thousands of miles alone to Europe as either refugees or economic migrants...
  19. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The latter that I've quoted. She's shown no remorse for her actions and still clearly believes in the Islamic State cause, now merely wanting to use the UK for it's medical services while hating our culture. We don't want her or her attitudes, and her child should grow up knowing it's mother...
  20. flecc

    no need for high cadence

    I doubt it is muscle building that is the benefit and resistance through loading is undesirable. However, cycling is a great benefit to ease the pain of arthritis. The spinning keeps the joint free and helps to disperse the wear particles that cause the abrasive wear and pain, while not having...