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Maybe they are going for stealth and pretending to be pedelecs? http://www.kalkhoff-bikes.com/de/bikes/e-bike/e-performance/kalkhoff-integrale-s11-11-g.html The German bike has the rear view mirror. Front light seems to be bespoke but the rest of the kit is their except for the horn.

https://www.taylor-wheels.com/bike-wheels/26-inch-bike-wheel/26-inch-rear-wheels/?laufrad_hr_nabe=38 Nexus 8 inter for under £120 shipped!

If you are Bosch you are not laughing...

I disagree with you on this flecc, all of these components are on the s-class bikes I have seen for sale except for the horn: - b+m rear view mirrors are seen on most photos of s-pedelecs. - Many companies use a Supernova on the front and a b+m light on the back, the Supernova has low...

Those are in the testing section: 10% for factory built and 5% for one off.

My 4S pack has a duff cell and has only been charged 5 or 6 times in 2 months... so out of guarantee :( It isn't too bad but I'm sure that it will get worse quickly. I wont be going below 3.7 V on that pack which is going to limit range a wee bit.

Oh! Thanks for this d8veh. I wonder if they would sell just the frame with motor mounted (and LCD of course)??? The brake cable run is as ugly as sin... PS ebay UK in it's infinite wisdom won't let me sign in with my US login and password...

Dave Yes it does have a dipping Supernova headlamp with daytime running lights which can be fitted to any moped, Supernova is marketing it to petrol powered moped manufacturers too. Indicators are not mandatory on mopeds in France there is a numberplate holder with plate lighting and brake...

I think that some of the confusion stems from the fact that the Swiss, the Germans/Dutch and the Austrians had at one time their own different s-pedelec standards. Uniformity is very recent. The ST1 has two versions: pedelec and s-pedelec. The ST2 only comes with a 500 W motor. Note that the...

My Spanish is almost good enough for me to convince the BH centre in S. Sebastian to let me have a go on one. But then the salesman would bug me for months and months to convince me to buy one...

10.79 per mile on my last measured ride. I took a photo but the reflection of the sky took out the interesting bit, I'm not making it up honest :p 70 km from the 10.4 Ah bottle battery and 44 km from the 10 Ah Lipo pack at the moment. My current project is to double the Lipo which would mean...

IE 11 AKA Edge? Has very serious issues with standards. The only browser they ever got right was the one they bought ready made, the first Internet Explorer... Back then Netscape 0.96 beta was king of the hill.

Can't be used on cycle paths in France or Spain and also can't be used on dual carriageways. So there you are in your motorbike helmet pedalling along on the open road... That is never going to be much fun, especially in the summer :eek: At least you won't be booked for using an exhaust kit...

BTW: Schwalbe has approved tyres, Magura approved brake levers and Supernova lights with high beam, brake lights and numberplate lighting. This is equipment to moped class norms. In France you need a special horn that makes a moped specific noise (easy to find in a scrap yard).

Not legal in France either that is why it has to be registered as a moped with motor bike helmet and all the other limits that make it much less attractive for my use. France is apparently working on s-pedelec rules aligned with Germany.

Is that green flying to Australia to buy an e-bike? Can't you just order it from Germany? <ducking>

Where is the rain protection :p I am really looking forward to plonking my almost 61 year old frame into a tadpole trike seat. I have been working like a man since I was 12 (don't talk about this to the current generation) and am ready for a bit of comfort on my ride to the station. A folding...

You can in France. But that is in the EU and you don't like the EU... :rolleyes: I wrote about registering an s-pedelec last year I think. BUT... A pedelec can freewheel down a hill in France at 60 km/h (real world tested by yours truly) and be within the law. An s-pedelec is limited to 45...

I met a very nice English/French family at the station and the parents/grandparents had ridden bicycles up from Spain to Brittany... <!@µ£¤> and other words you can't use on forums, very nice though...

You can self certify, you are the constructor, you assume full responsibility. They won't bug you. Especially if they know you have a very good lawyer who just happens to be your friend... It will cost them much more in legal fees and if you you also have a good friend who is a journalist (old...