A Crank Call

[eddieo]

i suggest you take off the rose tinted glasses (dont suit you anyway) grow up and act your age...Your OTT exubarance for this thing (cant call it a bike) is certainly laughable though somewhat tiresome.....who you trying to kid, no one with half a brain thats for sure!lol

 

[scarrabri]

i suggest you take off the rose tinted glasses (dont suit you anyway) grow up and act your age...Your OTT exubarance for this thing (cant call it a bike) is certainly laughable though somewhat tiresome.....who you trying to kid, no one with half a brain thats for sure!lol

oops sorry edddio if i struck a nerve ,but the OTT exubarance comes from ridding one ,tiresome as it may seem to you ,my very best wishes ,Brian.

 

[Kudoscycles]

Handbags!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[flecc]

the Grand Tonaro takes on Mountains ,my very best wishes to you my friend ,Brian.

Bit of exaggeration there Brian! Remember our member who bought one for his run to the North Downs golf club? He can ride the very long Sanderstead Hill en-route on an unpowered bike, but still found it hard work on his Tonaro. My little eZee Quando climbs it without any pedalling on my part.

That rather puts the Tonaro ability into context

 

[Scottyf]

Brain likes it, eddio doesn't. Let's leave it at that.



Anyway I'm sure more suppliers will take up crank drives but there for a specific rider and requirement.
Hubs for the moment offer a cheaper less cumbersome alternative to reach the max assist speed with a natural power curve that drops off as speed increases.

 

[scarrabri]

Bit of exaggeration there Brian! Remember our member who bought one for his run to the North Downs golf club? He can ride the very long Sanderstead Hill en-route on an unpowered bike, but still found it hard work on his Tonaro. My little eZee Quando climbs it without any pedalling on my part.

That rather puts the Tonaro ability into context

Hi Flecc sorry ,but i have done a lot of miles on the Tonaro Bighit ,and i still think this bike does not get its just rewards as a very very good bike ,and i would hate folk to be put off , by off the cuff jokes ,best wishes Brian.

 

[eddieo]

scottyf, lol That again is rather simplistic.....learn to read between the lines and separate BS from reality..... Many inexperienced people read this site, looking for advice. The likes of Scarlatti is doing them a disservice. Nothing but nonsensical and emotive BS

 

[Scottyf]

I'm sure people that are that new in experienced know not to take one review as gospel.
Anyone with half a brain should do there research.

And more importantly try bikes out for themselves. After all what validates anyone else's opinion more than your own...

 

[Willin']

Bit of exaggeration there Brian! Remember our member who bought one for his run to the North Downs golf club? He can ride the very long Sanderstead Hill en-route on an unpowered bike, but still found it hard work on his Tonaro. My little eZee Quando climbs it without any pedalling on my part.

That rather puts the Tonaro ability into context

I don't know the area at all but I think the height of that hill is only about 175metres (575 feet)above sea level. Considering I can waltz from sea level up to 890 feet and sometimes up to 1400 feet above sea level on my Tonaro with out much bother puts your friend's efforts into context as well.

That being said I am disappointed this thread has gone the way it has. I like my Tonaro - if I had a) lots of money and b) the opportunity to ride a bosch/panasonic whatever I may change my mind. But for now the Tonaro does me fine. I certainly don't see why people need to get so aggressive. So I won't bother to post on this thread again.

 

[indalo]

Anyway I'm sure more suppliers will take up crank drives

That's debatable Scotty. I'm guessing here but I reckon it's probably simpler and cheaper to create an ebike with a hub-drive system.

The maker of my own Panasonic crank-drive bike, Gazelle, has dropped the Panasonic system in favour of an in-house front-hub system right across their range of ebikes. Now, I have no idea whether it's any good or not but it sells well in in their home market of Holland and if it were regarded as inferior to the older Panasonic system, I think the Dutch would be riding around on the competition by now. They're not short of quality bike makers in Holland!

Indalo

 

[flecc]

That being said I am disappointed this thread has gone the way it has. I like my Tonaro - if I had a) lots of money and b) the opportunity to ride a bosch/panasonic whatever I may change my mind. But for now the Tonaro does me fine. I certainly don't see why people need to get so aggressive. So I won't bother to post on this thread again.

Please don't be so touchy Willin. As said, I'm putting the praise into context for realism, not slating the Tonaro which answers the requirements of many and expands the e-bike market. It has no competitor for those people at present and is very good value.

But it's not everyone's cup of tea and other bikes around the same price can do better in some respects, like the Quando I mentioned.

It's important that opinions are given in the context of experience and some relevant knowledge. One Tonaro owner even posts repeatedly that it's a Torano.

 

[banbury frank]

Hi I have been told that the next generation off motors for Holland will be Direct drive hub motors with controller and pedal sensor inside just connect 36 volts and go 250 watts

They are working on the pedal sensor inside

front or rear wheel

I just happen to have samples of the rear motors with twist and go throttle 5 wires out 3 for throttle 2 for battery Even a bike shop can fit one off them

Frank

 

[scarrabri]

I don't know the area at all but I think the height of that hill is only about 175metres (575 feet)above sea level. Considering I can waltz from sea level up to 890 feet and sometimes up to 1400 feet above sea level on my Tonaro with out much bother puts your friend's efforts into context as well.

That being said I am disappointed this thread has gone the way it has. I like my Tonaro - if I had a) lots of money and b) the opportunity to ride a bosch/panasonic whatever I may change my mind. But for now the Tonaro does me fine. I certainly don't see why people need to get so aggressive. So I won't bother to post on this thread again.

Hi Willin
i am sorry if i upset you ,i do get a little carried away when the ,Tonaro comes in for what is after all harmless banter ,and indeed every one is entitled to there opinion ,sorry again my friend ,take care best wishes Brian.

 

[Willin']

Hi Willin
i am sorry if i upset you ,i do get a little carried away when the ,Tonaro comes in for what is after all harmless banter ,and indeed every one is entitled to there opinion ,sorry again my friend ,take care best wishes Brian.

You are not the problem Brian. I really like your posts and your enthusiasm for your bike makes a marked counterpoint to the cynicism and disdain of other posters.

There - I said I wouldn't post and I have but I didn't want you to feel as if you had upset me.

 

[scarrabri]

You are not the problem Brian. I really like your posts and your enthusiasm for your bike makes a marked counterpoint to the cynicism and disdain of other posters.

There - I said I wouldn't post and I have but I didn't want you to feel as if you had upset me.

Hi Willin
i am so happy you posted again ,i thought i had upset you my friend ,and you being a Tonaro fan
,i can tell you like your Tonaro ,they are kind of special and i think the world of mine as im sure you do my friend ,its all i can afford as is the case maybe for you too ,i am going on holiday again at the weekend and if it kills me im going to try to ride it up the great orm in landudno ,what a thrill that would be ,to reach the top and take a pic in front of the building called the summit ,now that would be some thing for the Tonaro crank driven and all my friend ,best wishes my friend Brian,ps so glad you posted .

 

[eddieo]

and pigs might fly......more utter infantile garbage

 

[funkylyn]

and pigs might fly......more utter infantile garbage

Eddie.....do you think perhaps its you who should grow up and keep to the discussion inhand I really dont think you should be descending into personal attacks on other members.

You dont like the Tonaro bikes....fine...thats your opinion and we now all know it, let it rest there.

Lynda

 

[tillson]

and pigs might fly......more utter infantile garbage

I know that ebike owners spring to the defence of the brand that they have chosen to buy, and that there is a tendency broadcast how delighted they are with the new machine. But you must admit, the Tonaro bikes seem to be commanding praise from many quarters. Some of these Tonaro owners have experience of a good range of bikes, some costing nearly twice as much, and they have made positive comments regarding this bike. There has to be something there which can't be ignored.

The Tonaro may look a bit agricultural to some, but if I were looking for another bike, I would certainly take the time to seek out and try a Tonaro. I can see it working for me in certain circumstances. To dismiss it out of hand without any real knowledge wouldn't be the brightest thing to do.

 

[eddieo]

Like I said earlier.....Trying to add some balance to the over emotional and evocative language used by the likes of Scarberrie. Yes we can all get a bit enthusiastic with a new bike. But I believe that it is important to call a spade a spade, and be more circumspect and realistic......As long as I see this emotional OTT drivel I will continue to challenge it. Purely for the benefit of the inexperienced among us.

 

[Jimod]

Instead of adding balance, you appear to be trawling threads like a Bulldog with toothache.