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[Waspy]

Keep this image with you when you fit the calipers, so as not to get in a muddle about what way the adaptors fit:

This picture shows where I added two 2mm washers to each bolt which attaches the rear adaptor to the frame. I later corrected this to one 2mm washer on each bolt.

It looks a bit complicated but it's really not, and every bike will be different.

 

[billyboya]

If trimming wire cables one needs to use the correct cable cut for anice clean cut.

Pardon our interruption...

nice one have ordered those now.


so will now order these HB100s for £23.61 free shipping. BTW whats that yellow tab thing for is that the disc pad or something

 

[Waspy]

The yellow tab is to stop the pistons (and pads) being accidently squeezed together before the caliper is fitted to the bike. They are handy things to keep if ever you take a wheel off, you just pop them in to hold the pistons (and pads) back while the wheel is off the bike.

 

[billyboya]

The yellow pad is to stop the pistons being accidently squeezed together before the caliper is fitted to the bike. They are handy things to keep if ever you take a wheel off, you just pop them in to hold the pistons back while the wheel is off the bike.

Oh I see. handy to know. on my brake pads I have atm there is a spring in between them. but find they dont hold up going down a hill as had to stick my foot out other day to use as a brake lol . mind you pads did need replacing. ok Ive ordered the calipers now £23.61 HB100s

Just like to thank you guys for all the help you have given me. sorry saneagle I have not gone for the full Hydraulics but I didn't really want to mess with my bike too much. hopefully now the brakes have a piston both sides of the pads I will get better braking

these are the disc pads I have now

 

[Waspy]

Oh I see. handy to know. on my brake pads I have atm there is a spring in between them. but find they dont hold up going down a hill as had to stick my foot out other day to use as a brake lol . mind you pads did need replacing. ok Ive ordered the calipers now £23.61 HB100s

Just like to thank you guys for all the help you have given me. sorry saneagle I have not gone for the full Hydraulics but I didn't really want to mess with my bike too much. hopefully now the brakes have a piston both sides of the pads I will get better braking

If you encounter any problems fitting them, just ask here and forum members will be happy to talk you through it.

Also...I can assure you there will be no more having to use your feet as brakes!

 

[billyboya]

If you encounter any problems fitting them, just ask here and forum members will be happy to talk you through it.

Also...I can assure you there will be no more having to use your feet as brakes!

So these pads are much larger hopefully plus having a piston behind each pad must be better braking

 

[billyboya]

If you encounter any problems fitting them, just ask here and forum members will be happy to talk you through it.

Also...I can assure you there will be no more having to use your feet as brakes!

When you said earlier about

To centralise the pads you have to loosen the two bolts that hold the caliper to the adaptor, squeeze the brake lever and then tighten the two bolts up again (while keeping the brake lever squeezed).

would you mind showing me a picture of what bolts you loosen then grip brake lever etc

btw this is my bike

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[Waspy]

These are the bolts you need to loosen, they bolt the caliper to the adaptor.

 

[Waspy]

Nice bike by the way.

 

[billyboya]

These are the bolts you need to loosen, they bolt the caliper to the adaptor.

Thanks Wasby will check that when new calipers arrive, I've never done that before with my brakes no wonder they not good.

Regarding my bike I got it free LOL, as I had a gas leak in my place, and engineer said they will be paying me £70 a day while i have no gas to use. so I told them to take there time no hurry LOL. its took them 8 days lol I got £560 so bought that bike well it was cheaper than £560 at the time

 

[saneagle]

Well to be honest, I have been worrying about doing all this to my bike, as I only use it for small trips. sometimes occasionally a bit further, no offence to you saneagle I appreciate your help too. But this sounds a much easier option for me. so its still wire cable. but the calipers are like a piston which obviously works off a lever, it looks as if the 1st link you posted for a pair colour black its £20.29 plus another £7.02 shipping so total = £27.31

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But in the 2nd link its only £21.49 colour black for a pair plus no shipping cost. so best to go for those then.
Will they come with disc pads fitted already or do you have to buy pads separate as I don't think my pads would fit those

I will wait for your reply before I order them

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I have some of those brakes on a bike in my house right now. They were fitted a few months ago, and they were very good; however, when I checked the bike today, one of them is not working so well. I haven't done a full check yet, but one of the pistons is looking shorter than the other one. Either some oil has leaked out or the pads have worn a lot. In my opinion, it's not worth it to fit those brakes when you can fit proper hydraulic ones for only a few quid more.

 

[billyboya]

I have some of those brakes on a bike in my house right now. They were fitted a few months ago, and they were very good; however, when I checked the bike today, one of them is not working so well. I haven't done a full check yet, but one of the pistons is looking shorter than the other one. Either some oil has leaked out or the pads have worn a lot. In my opinion, it's not worth it to fit those brakes when you can fit proper hydraulic ones for only a few quid more.

Well see how these go 1st, and if i have problems, may consider full hydraulics

 

[Peter.Bridge]

Cylebuddies thoughts on the HB100.

ZOOM HB-100: Upgrading cable-operated disc brakes to hydraulic calipers

I'm just wondering if anybody else here has tried upgrading their mechanical disc calipers to hydraulic and what your thoughts are? Are these ZOOM HB-100 hydraulic calipers a good compromise or waste of time? With these it's only the caliper that's hydraulic, so you don't have an oil reservoir...

www.pedelecs.co.uk

@cyclebuddy - that was a few years ago. How long did they last ?

 

[Baz the balloon man]

Not sure what you need to many posts to read now going to bed !!

I have New one full set of Clarks React 4 , or I have a set of nearly new I am going to take of a Giant Entour , the mid drive is going to be sold too .
And I have a few sets of Carrera Crossfire and Subways .

Agree oil brakes are much better and you just need some sensors YOSE sell them or plenty on e bay stick the magnets on with metal epoxy I find works well

 

[Tony1951]

Agree oil brakes are much better and you just need some sensors YOSE sell them or plenty on e bay stick the magnets on with metal epoxy I find works well

I had a stuck on magnet on the brake of my Bafang conversion. It works fine until the magnet gets knocked off . That happened to me one day when I was riding along and the power suddenly cut out. I fiddled about looking at cables for about five minutes before i got logical and spotted what was wrong. As I recall (vaguely) I had to pull the harness plug which connected the brake switch and the bike came back to life.

I never did anything about it afterwards and use it without brake cut offs. My settings mean that the power stops pretty much instantly if I stop pedalling so I don't need a cut off. I just stop pedalling. There is no motor run on.

 

[Tony1951]

I have HB100 cable hydraulic brakes on my Argos folder. They are vastly better than the original brakes that came with it, but fall well short of the proper hydraulics I have on the other bike. Most of the issue is caused by cable drag which wastes hand pressure, but they have worked ok.

I have noticed some reduction of effect on the back brake over about 900 miles of riding, but it may just be time to change the pads. I haven't looked at the problem. I think it is likely pad replacement time.

They were extraordinarily cheap for what they are. They look well made and well finished for about 20 quid each set. I have had mine for about a year.

 

[Nealh]

Brake upgrade is horses for courses, a competent bike owner who can do bike maintenance will have little issue swapping over to full hydraulic .
Another option is to get a self employed bike mechanic to come to you to do the swap over.
If one isn't competent enough and still wants to upgrade then the halfway house caliper option with cable brakes may be better then ones current set up.
Going to a LBS may not be an option as they may also want to supply any brake upgrade besides just fitting them.

 

[billyboya]

Spot the Difference , as I cant as both look same, so why does it says FRONT & REAR

 

[Waspy]

The bits circled in blue are the adaptors.

The bits not circled in blue are the calipers.

The calipers are bolted to the adaptors.

The adaptors are bolted to the frame.

You will notice that the front and rear adaptors are different, this is because the mounting points on the frame are different for front and rear.

 

[Nealh]

It is the positioning of the adapter fixings on the forks and frame, they differ.
Both calipers will fit front or rear and the adapter they come with may fit front or rear dependent of the rotor /disc size.

So the one that say's Front will fit complete as it is on the front with a 160mm dia rotor, though will also fit on the rear which has a smaller 140mm dia rotor as the adapter is lower in height.

The one that say's Rear will fit complete as it is on the rear with a 160mm dia rotor, though will fit on the front which has a larger 180mm dia rotor as the adapter is taller in height.