Brexit, for once some facts.

PeterL

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With all these sexual harassment allegations emerging, almost on a daily basis, concerning powerful figures in the media and in government, perhaps it's time to introduce some guidance for MPs and indeed all males where they necessarily have to intermingle with the female gender.

This old film clip might be a good start:
Tom


There are some wonderful quotes that come with this image

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Wicky

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At last something we can agree on,

had to take the wife to our local A&E, suspected poisoning in the knee joint, fobbed off by a junior doctor at our local surgery who hadn`t `seen this` condition before. Spent over 5 grueling hours sitting around with 40 others, many in obvious pain, waiting on blood test results

There must be a better way than this??! Whatever happened to the old NHS?
Since percentage numbers of folk using A&E unnecessarily snowballed

An A&E department (also known as emergency department or casualty) deals with genuine life-threatening emergencies, such as:

loss of consciousness
acute confused state and fits that are not stopping
persistent, severe chest pain
breathing difficulties
severe bleeding that cannot be stopped

Triaging will ensure people with the most serious conditions are seen first.

Funnily enough many moons ago whilst working in London I cut myself on the hand with a Stanley knife when cutting a live domestic electrical cable (don't ask ;-) - much too my surprise on arrival at A&E I was whisked urgently through the queues to be treated immediately - not because of the cut but for possible problems caused by the electric shock on the heart. Lesson learnt whatever reason you need to attend A&E for i.e. splinter, ingrown toenail etc. add a dash of electrocution! or invest in an old copy of the Reader's Digest Book of Family Health for DIY at home options...

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Kudoscycles

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This latest 'withdrawal bill' that promises that parliament will have a line by line study of the final EU-UK exit deal and then wont be able to do anything other than accept it or crash out.
Does this government think that parliament and the electorate are idiots...anyway I thought that was already agreed months ago....this latest idea is a sham and should be rejected by all.
If parliament is anything other than puppets they should reject this bill and force the government to give a 'meaningful vote' as promised.
Yesterday an MP asked Davis if there is a possibility that we may leave the EU before the vote on this bill is offered to parliament....quietly almost under his breath he said Yes....he said it so quietly the speaker had to repeat the Yes.
Theresa May is nothing more than a puppet whos strings are pulled by the 40 plus right wing Tory bastards,our country has been hi-jacked by these toffs and there seems little we can do about it...Anna Soubry said it all in the house yesterday but have the sensible Tory and Labour backbenchers the courage to do anything about it.
We are all being pushed to the cliff edge,I hope the poor in this country are ready for Rees-Mogg's form of government...look up the deal that Singapore government offers,the rich will love it....no need for tax havens we will have a good one at home.
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Kudoscycles

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The SNP’s foreign affairs spokesperson, Stephen Gethins, said his party had put forward an amendment to the bill that would prevent a “no deal” scenario so that the UK could remain in the EU if negotiations fail.

“We know there is concern across all parties about this Brexit bill, and the government knows it will have to compromise,” he said. “I call on all parties to back this SNP reset amendment to ensure we have a safety net should negotiations fail.”

Interesting amendment.....instead of 'no-deal,we crash out' ....its 'no deal,we stay in'....bet the Tory bastards will spill their port over that one!!!!
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PeterL

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The SNP’s foreign affairs spokesperson, Stephen Gethins, said his party had put forward an amendment to the bill that would prevent a “no deal” scenario so that the UK could remain in the EU if negotiations fail.

“We know there is concern across all parties about this Brexit bill, and the government knows it will have to compromise,” he said. “I call on all parties to back this SNP reset amendment to ensure we have a safety net should negotiations fail.”

Interesting amendment.....instead of 'no-deal,we crash out' ....its 'no deal,we stay in'....bet the Tory bastards will spill their port over that one!!!!
KudosDave
I'll have you know that most Tories come from respectable families, doubtful too many SNP can say that. You do have strange bedfellows.
 
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PeterL

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Remind me; who exactly stands to benefit from 'Brexit'? It continues to look as if the UK may well lose its carmaking business and associated supply industry unless a deal which very closely resembles what we enjoy at the moment can be wrung out of these ongoing discussions.

car-industry-devastated-mays-hard-brexit

Tom
Lots of could's and MAYbe's in that report so I doubt anyone need lose any sleep over it.
 

Jimod

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I'll have you know that most Tories come from respectable families, doubtful too many SNP can say that. You do have strange bedfellows.
Are you really from Dundee and making such a comment about respectable Tory voters in Scotland?
 
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Kudoscycles

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So this is what our trading arrangements may look like,post Brexit.....

The “new customs partnership” is the more ambitious of the two, but comes with significant compromises. It envisages the UK copying, or “mirroring”, EU tariffs for imported goods ultimately bound for other member states. A smartphone flown into Heathrow could be put on a truck and sent to Paris without passing through another physical customs barrier because any EU duty would be charged in the UK. Importers would either have to submit to electronic tracking to show that UK-only goods were not sneaking off to the continent, or else would just be charged the higher tariff rate upfront and then claim a rebate if it ends up in a British shop. The unspecified corollary of this is that UK-produced goods would also get to escape EU import tariffs because we would strike a far-reaching free trade deal at the same time. If everything heading for the continent or Ireland is tin effect duty free, we don’t need physical customs checks – or so the logic goes.

That sounds difficult. Is there an alternative?
Officials concede that their plan has never been tried before and is highly ambitious. It depends on substantial goodwill among the EU27, who will have to have the same faith in HM Customs and Excise and the honesty of British business as the UK government seems to be ready to extend. If it cannot be agreed, the UK proposes trying to mitigate existing customs controls with the “highly streamlined arrangement”. This also relies on companies agreeing to report exports in advance, or perhaps once a month for big shippers, so border controls can be reduced to number plate recognition cameras and similar mechanisms. Officials point out that much enforcement from non-EU countries already takes place far from the borders, but this system could also require them to be checking on EU consumer standards as well. They may be able to persuade Dublin to accept such a scheme in the interests of Northern Irish peace, but it is hard to imagine France, for example, taking everything on trust. The EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, is understood to have advised the French government to invest in new customs infrastructure at its Atlantic ports. How “streamlined” it proves is anybody’s guess.

Looks complex to me.
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oldtom

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Are you really from Dundee and making such a comment about respectable Tory voters in Scotland?
Didn't he reveal some time ago 'Jimod' that he's a scouser or certainly, if not a proper scouser, as close as makes no difference?

He's probably only in Scotland to worship possibly the greatest ever football manager the English game has seen; one Bill Shankly OBE, a good socialist and a funny man as well.

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PeterL

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So this is what our trading arrangements may look like,post Brexit.....

The “new customs partnership” is the more ambitious of the two, but comes with significant compromises. It envisages the UK copying, or “mirroring”, EU tariffs for imported goods ultimately bound for other member states. A smartphone flown into Heathrow could be put on a truck and sent to Paris without passing through another physical customs barrier because any EU duty would be charged in the UK. Importers would either have to submit to electronic tracking to show that UK-only goods were not sneaking off to the continent, or else would just be charged the higher tariff rate upfront and then claim a rebate if it ends up in a British shop. The unspecified corollary of this is that UK-produced goods would also get to escape EU import tariffs because we would strike a far-reaching free trade deal at the same time. If everything heading for the continent or Ireland is tin effect duty free, we don’t need physical customs checks – or so the logic goes.

That sounds difficult. Is there an alternative?
Officials concede that their plan has never been tried before and is highly ambitious. It depends on substantial goodwill among the EU27, who will have to have the same faith in HM Customs and Excise and the honesty of British business as the UK government seems to be ready to extend. If it cannot be agreed, the UK proposes trying to mitigate existing customs controls with the “highly streamlined arrangement”. This also relies on companies agreeing to report exports in advance, or perhaps once a month for big shippers, so border controls can be reduced to number plate recognition cameras and similar mechanisms. Officials point out that much enforcement from non-EU countries already takes place far from the borders, but this system could also require them to be checking on EU consumer standards as well. They may be able to persuade Dublin to accept such a scheme in the interests of Northern Irish peace, but it is hard to imagine France, for example, taking everything on trust. The EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, is understood to have advised the French government to invest in new customs infrastructure at its Atlantic ports. How “streamlined” it proves is anybody’s guess.

Looks complex to me.
KudosDave
I think something like this was suggested the other day in regard to Ireland. We have exactly the same things in place on Day1 - it just takes a measure of trust and goodwill...
 

PeterL

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Didn't he reveal some time ago 'Jimod' that he's a scouser or certainly, if not a proper scouser, as close as makes no difference?

He's probably only in Scotland to worship possibly the greatest ever football manager the English game has seen; one Bill Shankly OBE, a good socialist and a funny man as well.

Tom
Very close Tom!
 
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