Brexit, for once some facts.

OxygenJames

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Let’s have another EU referendum. Remain will win by a bigger margin than Leave won by last time. It’s there in black & white.
Sure. Black and white. Let's ignore the 9% of Tory votes eh? Let's not include that % in the leave vote huh? Sure. Black and white. You know - the Tory party where at least 80% voted leave. But - you're a robot - you just repeat what you hear so long as it agrees with whatever was in your head 3s before.
 
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OxygenJames

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Sure. Black and white. Let's ignore the 9% of Tory votes eh? Let's not include that % in the leave vote huh? Sure. Black and white. You know - the Tory party where at least 80% voted leave. But - you're a robot - you just repeat what you hear so long as it agrees with whatever was in your head 3s before.
This is roughly how 50Hz's logic works:

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Danidl

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Sure. Black and white. Let's ignore the 9% of Tory votes eh? Let's not include that % in the leave vote huh? Sure. Black and white. You know - the Tory party where at least 80% voted leave. But - you're a robot - you just repeat what you hear so long as it agrees with whatever was in your head 3s before.
How on earth do you come to a conclusion that the Tory related vote was a Leave vote?. My interpretation , at least as valid, is that it was a Remain vote. Any Tory voter who was pro hard Brexit would have voted for the ..err Brexit Party (Recall that before the election that was the presumption.). I would not make the same conclusion for the Labour related vote,which was and is ambiguous. The best ..from your viewpoint which could be attributed to the Tory and Labour vote,was that tgey prefer a Soft Brexit..or a Brexit with a Deal.
Having said that,a 32% national vote for an organisation (Brexit Party) which did not exist a month ago is an incredible result.
 
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flecc

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But every cave would have at least one wood fire :D :D :D
Wouldn't matter, as I posted, a much smaller population.

Without coal and oil and all their many products, we'd never have got to today's 7.5 billions, as the very slow population growth of earlier centuries shows.
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Woosh

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Wouldn't matter, as I posted, a much smaller population.

Without coal and oil and all their many products, we'd never have got to today's 7.5 billions, as the very slow population growth of earlier centuries shows.
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could that be liberal capitalism that promote a larger population?
 

wheeler

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When are Scotland and NI declaring?
Scotland's official declaration will be after the Western Isles has counted the votes, there is no counting there on Sunday.
This will not make any difference to the current result viz SNP 3 seats, LibDems 1 seat, Tories 1 seat, and Brexit 1 seat.
Doesn't change much, Scotland still wants to remain in the EU.
 
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flecc

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could that be liberal capitalism that promote a larger population?
Helps, but without coal, oil and all their products, we'd never have the population expansion we've had.

Far less transport, travel and communication, no plastics and electronics, far fewer medicines and antiseptics, probably no widespread electricity. The more one digs into this, the more one realises the huge limitations without these two fossils.
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oldgroaner

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Whatever.

"All any of them do is rip off the British pubic" is what you said - which is the sort of thing nut-jobs and freaks think.

No - it is NOT ALL THAT THEY DO and to say such a thing only makes you look ridiculous.

Interesting election results though huh?
It shows how the conservatives have created the worst crisis since the second world war and shot themselves in both feet
What will they do to complete ritual suicide by selecting a suitable fall guy in
time for the next GE? Perhaps?
Will the end of the party be a bang or a whimper?
Most likely they will seek the public to carry the blame through a referendum
I can't see boris or gove accepting personal responsibility for a no deal brexit
 
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Zlatan

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Yup, I think I'm the oldest member, as well as being the first pedelecs member ever to join.

I was a mere seventy year old youngster then.
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I, ve got a friend who is a year older than you flecc.... Still windsurfing at sea and in any winds... He, s good too. Its only a number, I keep telling myself, as my knees fall apart and heart is in AF... Makes interesting sailing... Like trying to get that extra few miles out of a flat battery...
"well my specialist said I should be ok" must be common words for St Peter..
 
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