Brexit, for once some facts.

oyster

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Charts Gove would say, who needs 'em



If ever a country needed to change it's government,
We are that country
Now is that time
Figures. Charts. Statistics. Analysis.

No. Being a FIGHTER is what counts! (Does someone think that Johnson is some sort of latterday Spitfire or Hurricane?)

Interesting, and unpleasant, reading:

UK will have Europe's worst coronavirus death toll, study predicts

IHME analysis is disputed by scientists whose modelling is relied on by UK government
World-leading disease data analysts have projected that the UK will become the country worst hit by the coronavirus pandemic in Europe, accounting for more than 40% of total deaths across the continent.


The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) in Seattle predicts 66,000 UK deaths from Covid-19 by August, with a peak of nearly 3,000 a day, based on a steep climb in daily deaths early in the outbreak.


The analysts also claim discussions over “herd immunity” led to a delay in the UK introducing physical distancing measures, which were brought in from 23 March in England when the coronavirus death toll stood at 54. Portugal, by comparison, had just one confirmed death when distancing measures were imposed.


The newly released data is disputed by scientists whose modelling of the likely shape of the UK epidemic is relied on by the government. Prof Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College, said the IHME figures on “healthcare demand” – including hospital bed use and deaths – were twice as high as they should be.


More to read at:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/uk-will-be-europes-worst-hit-by-coronavirus-study-predicts

I'm not here to pick winners of such arguments. Just as an ordinary human being deeply concerned about where we are.
 

oldgroaner

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Figures. Charts. Statistics. Analysis.

No. Being a FIGHTER is what counts! (Does someone think that Johnson is some sort of latterday Spitfire or Hurricane?)

Interesting, and unpleasant, reading:

UK will have Europe's worst coronavirus death toll, study predicts

IHME analysis is disputed by scientists whose modelling is relied on by UK government
World-leading disease data analysts have projected that the UK will become the country worst hit by the coronavirus pandemic in Europe, accounting for more than 40% of total deaths across the continent.


The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) in Seattle predicts 66,000 UK deaths from Covid-19 by August, with a peak of nearly 3,000 a day, based on a steep climb in daily deaths early in the outbreak.


The analysts also claim discussions over “herd immunity” led to a delay in the UK introducing physical distancing measures, which were brought in from 23 March in England when the coronavirus death toll stood at 54. Portugal, by comparison, had just one confirmed death when distancing measures were imposed.


The newly released data is disputed by scientists whose modelling of the likely shape of the UK epidemic is relied on by the government. Prof Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College, said the IHME figures on “healthcare demand” – including hospital bed use and deaths – were twice as high as they should be.


More to read at:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/uk-will-be-europes-worst-hit-by-coronavirus-study-predicts

I'm not here to pick winners of such arguments. Just as an ordinary human being deeply concerned about where we are.
And still in the right wing press every effort is being made to present our situation as if we are somehow more than holding our own, due to the "heroic" efforts of the Government, who in more rational times should by now be facing trial for criminal negligence in carrying out their duty to protect the public.
When reading the Readers comments in these rags it is hard not to assume that most of their readership could not beat the average gnat in a test of intelligence.
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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Well if this lockdown is showing people anything, let’s hope that it’s you don’t need pubs, shops selling tat and constant pressure to consume on credit. I’m actually enjoying the tranquility. No planes flying over or background hum of traffic etc. It’s very relaxing. The best things in life are generally free or low cost.
 

oyster

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Well if this lockdown is showing people anything, let’s hope that it’s you don’t need pubs, shops selling tat and constant pressure to consume on credit. I’m actually enjoying the tranquility. No planes flying over or background hum of traffic etc. It’s very relaxing. The best things in life are generally free or low cost.
Have to say, I agree so much. The low levels of traffic (air, road, rail) are very much appreciated - despite being in an area that could only be regarded as tranquil compared to London area.

If only we could wander around more freely - within, say, twenty miles. And paddle on the beach.
 

tommie

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Ok ya`ll lets get back on topic, you remember the thread is/was about Brexit?

Seems more bad news for the remoaners,.....

..there's Trouble in Paradise :D Quote "the bloc could fall apart"
thankfully got out just in time, we`ve dodged a bullet for sure!

The coronavirus pandemic has exposed deep divides in Europe, with EU member states arguing over how to tackle the economic fallout.

Italy and Spain have accused northern nations - led by Germany and the Netherlands - of not doing enough. Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has even warned that if the EU fails to come up with an ambitious plan to help member states saddled with debt by the fight against coronavirus, the bloc could "fall apart".


EU Council and Commission chiefs released a statement on Monday that said a "strong package is in the making". Eurozone finance ministers are holding a teleconference on Tuesday night.

But a similar meeting two weeks ago bore little fruit. As a result, leaders sent their finance ministers back to the drawing board.

Italy, Spain, France and some other EU states want to share out coronavirus-incurred debt in the form of "coronabonds" (or eurobonds) - mutualised debt that all EU nations help pay off.

Some from these hard-hit nations have been angered by a perceived indifference from other EU states.

Wealthier countries like Germany are not yet digging deeper into their pockets to help out poorer nations like Italy and Spain.
 

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