Brexit, for once some facts.
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There must be some pickled brains in jars somewhere, that we could measure the amygdalas of... they'd be the floaters on top. Or in peat bogs?
UK will seek to ‘correct’ rulings by European Court of Human Rights
Raab questions role of Strasbourg judges
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Since we are no longer in EU this seems perfectly acceptable. Surprised its not case already. Everyone ignores EU judges anyway. What's new? Certainly isn't scum worthy.. Unless you are a brainwashed extremist.
Rayner might call him names for it.. And do nothing else,which is par for course with our Labour these days.
Hold a conference and dream up insults, much better than working for a living.
Or there is always super glue, a spare hand and the M25 for labour supporters. That seems quite effective. Doesn't keep them off streets, sort of opposite really.
What's your glue of choice Guerney? I, d guess Gorilla glue is very effective but will require a bit more patience. It works great in damp conditions.. Give it a go.
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This is an interesting article by Spiegelhalter.
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"Since we are no longer in EU this seems perfectly acceptable.UK will seek to ‘correct’ rulings by European Court of Human Rights
Raab questions role of Strasbourg judges
Since we are no longer in EU this seems perfectly acceptable. Surprised its not case already. Everyone ignores EU judges anyway. What's new? Certainly isn't scum worthy.. Unless you are a brainwashed extremist.
Rayner might call him names for it.. And do nothing else,which is par for course with our Labour these days.
Hold a conference and dream up insults, much better than working for a living.
Or there is always super glue, a spare hand and the M25 for labour supporters. That seems quite effective. Doesn't keep them off streets, sort of opposite really.
What's your glue of choice Guerney? I, d guess Gorilla glue is very effective but will require a bit more patience. It works great in damp conditions.. Give it a go.
Everyone ignores EU judges anyway. What's new? Certainly isn't scum worthy.. Unless you are a brainwashed extremist."
And since they can do exactly what they want, you are prepared to trust these people not to abuse the public?
Apparently we were the people who wrote the thing in the first place!
You would have had to be have been brainwashed and gullible enough to vote for Brexit to believe that!
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So whatever court rulings already exist can be set aside at the stroke of an administrative open wielded by some minister or other?
Rather removes all concept of precedent.
No just the Strasbourg ones... I thought we had our own judicial system??? Why do we need 2???
In other news (but keep this to yourself)
Australian trade minister leaves UK with no deal Dan Tehan hoped to strike an agreement with his UK counterpart, but it wasn’t to be
Australian trade minister leaves UK with no deal Dan Tehan hoped to strike an agreement with his UK counterpart, but it wasn’t to be
The precedents exist in the law of England and Wales (and, I think, Scotland). Our courts are expected to take into account precedents established during our EU membership. I don'think you can remove some precendents and not others and expect all judgements that were made to stand up to challenge.
We already have at least three - surely Northern Ireland is separate again?
You are doing it again! where does it stipulate they will only overrule Strasbourg Rules only?
They do that all the time right now!
Different subject he is talking about over ruling British courts on British laws
Raab sets out plans to end European judges ‘dictating’ UK on human rights - CityAM
The new Justice Secretary, Dominic Raab, has revealed new details about how he plans to prevent interference from Strasbourg in British matters as part of his overhaul of the Human Rights Act. At the Conservative Party conference earlier this month, the Justice Secretary said Boris Johnson had...
www.cityam.com
Into the future is, in case it wasn't obvious, not the same as from the past. There is a complex meshing of law and precedents from both Europe and UK courts from which you can't suddenly exclude a percentage.
Countries which have split or become independent don't (in general) appear to have totally ripped up everything.
It seems on first glance OK to me. Remember that in T.Mays great Repeal Bill all then current EU legislation was accepted as UK legislation, with the obvious assumption that in time they would review and revise as needed. Now some of these will cut off EU markets from UK producers..in all areas. So for instance it is highly unlikely that simplified HGV regulations will permit UK drivers access to European road networksThis seems perfectly understandable to me and any changes must be put before house any way???Isn't this the sort of thing he should be doing???Raab sets out plans to end European judges ‘dictating’ UK on human rights - CityAM
The new Justice Secretary, Dominic Raab, has revealed new details about how he plans to prevent interference from Strasbourg in British matters as part of his overhaul of the Human Rights Act. At the Conservative Party conference earlier this month, the Justice Secretary said Boris Johnson had...
What is unnecessary is to even couch the intention of removing ECJ oversight in jingoism.
Raab tries to pull the UK out of ECHR (European Conventions on Human Rights). The UK and 46 other European countries signed it.
Pulling out of ECHR puts us in the same group as Belarus and Kazakhstan.
Many international trade deals make adoption of the ECHR a condition.
Many people rely on it for justice: whistleblowers, strikers, health and social care recipients etc, all those who want to claim against the state.
This government is not only destroying our international reputation, it attacks the weak and needy. I would call all those who attack ECHR fascists.
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My comment was referring to the rich in the previous double quote post, They probably go back to the first to spot a large cluster of tasty caterpillars or limpets.
The Conservative and Unionist Party was actually founded in 1834:
"The Conservative Party was founded in 1834 from the Tory Party and was one of two dominant political parties in the 19th century, along with the Liberal Party. Under Benjamin Disraeli, it played a preeminent role in politics at the height of the British Empire. "
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