Charging e-bike from street charger

[camerart]

Hi,

In my town and across the UK, the authorities are fitting street chargers. They are for cars, but does anyone know if they can be used for charging E-bikes too.

It could be fun to have a journey using steet chargers.

Camerart,

 

[soundwave]

they not charging to use them pmsl

tho bet they will have plugs on them just for cars and not a uk plug socket or half the road be plugged in to them

 

[camerart]

The1/2 road you mention would need to register to get a card and pay too.

C.

 

[danielrlee]

It's entirety possible, although an adapter isn't cheap:

www.evbitz.uk/EVBitz.uk/T2___UK_13A.html

The biggest hurdle however is the bureaucracy involved throughout the various EV charging schemes and the lack of interoperability between them.

 

[camerart]

It's entirety possible, although an adapter isn't cheap:

www.evbitz.uk/EVBitz.uk/T2___UK_13A.html

The biggest hurdle however is the bureaucracy involved throughout the various EV charging schemes and the lack of interoperability between them.

The adaptor converts to 13A socket, which defeats the point really. I imagine I could go to many garages and give them the price of a drink? and they would let me plug in. Also we would need to carry our chargers with us. Mine has a power supply, which adds to the weight.

I suppose it needs dedicated E-bike chargers, that have monitoring/balancing and a simple connector.

Bureaucracy! I'll email Boris

C.

 

[flecc]

It's entirety possible, although an adapter isn't cheap:

www.evbitz.uk/EVBitz.uk/T2___UK_13A.html

The biggest hurdle however is the bureaucracy involved throughout the various EV charging schemes and the lack of interoperability between them.

And the lack of security is a major problem. Anyone could help themselves to one's e-bike charger and adapter during the charging process.
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[camerart]

And the lack of security is a major problem. Anyone could help themselves to one's e-bike charger and adapter during the charging process.
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I'm not sure how each e-bike is connected to their charger, but for me, ideally all I need is POS/NEG bullet connectors and perhaps the balance connector socket. Also a Voltage selection switch.

I can only assume that if this was implemented, there would be a charge card which opens up an opening to the connectors etc.

C.

 

[flecc]

I'm not sure how each e-bike is connected to their charger, but for me, ideally all I need is POS/NEG bullet connectors and perhaps the balance connector socket. Also a Voltage selection switch.

I can only assume that if this was implemented, there would be a charge card which opens up an opening to the connectors etc.

C.

The adaptor might be protected against theft, but the e-bike charger cannot be, and with some at around £125 a tempting availability. Even worse are the stand type ones like those for the popular Kalkhoffs that need the battery out of the bike and on the stand charger, meaning both battery and charger can just be taken.

All in all I don't think absent charging of e-bikes in a public place will be practical for most e-bikers due to the theft possibilities.
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[camerart]

The adaptor might be protected against theft, but the e-bike charger cannot be, and with some at around £125 a tempting availability. Even worse are the stand type ones like those for the popular Kalkhoffs that need the battery out of the bike and on the stand charger, meaning both battery and charger can just be taken.

All in all I don't think absent charging of e-bikes in a public place will be practical for most e-bikers due to the theft possibilities.
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To clarify what I mean: The charging post would have the charger inside it, and all I would need to carry is 1x pos/neg lead with bullet connections (As my charger outlet) and a balance lead.

Where I live there are lockable bike boxes dotted around. If similar boxes at the charge post had the charger inside and your bike could be left inside, and locked by your lock or by the charge card. There are ways

C.

 

[anotherkiwi]

The Satiator can be attached to the frame (if you have the space). The aluminium shell type could be adapted to have a ring attached to it so that it could be locked to the bike. Just a couple of thoughts. It is an idea which is of great interest to me too.

 

[camerart]

The Satiator can be attached to the frame (if you have the space). The aluminium shell type could be adapted to have a ring attached to it so that it could be locked to the bike. Just a couple of thoughts. It is an idea which is of great interest to me too.

I presume we all have different chargers, so it would be better if we didn't have to carry them. You will need a different lead to me. Where I need 2x bullet connectors plus balance, you will need the satiator one. The charger in the street should be able to be set for each type of battery and voltage etc.

C.

 

[flecc]

The charger in the street should be able to be set for each type of battery etc.

C.

Thus might prompt makers like Kalkhoff and Panasonic to change their practice of using battery-stand chargers, since it would be impossible for charging points to cope with all the variants of these within locking cabinets.
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[Brad Allen]

tho bet they will have connects on them just for vehicles and not a uk connect outlet or 50 percent the street be connected in to them


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[camerart]

tho bet they will have connects on them just for vehicles and not a uk connect outlet or 50 percent the street be connected in to them

Thus might prompt makers like Kalkhoff and Panasonic to change their practice of using battery-stand chargers, since it would be impossible for charging points to cope with all the variants of these within locking cabinets.
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Each bike would need to carry and adaptor from the Charging point standardsocket to their bike.

C

 

[flecc]

Each bike would need to carry and adaptor from the Charging point standardsocket to their bike.

C

In case you hadn't understood what I posted about the type of Kalkhoff and Panasonic practice, the batteries cannot be charged on the bikes, they have no connection for that. They have to be lifted out and placed on a stand charger of this type. With the charger being the "adaptor" costing circa £125, and the battery value very much higher, they clearly cannot be left charging in public, unless a very large locking cabinet was provided that could take the charger and battery together.
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[JohnCade]

The impulse Kalkhoff can be charged on the bike. Don’t know about the latest integrated model but I doubt they will have gone back to using the pedestal only.

 

[flecc]

The impulse Kalkhoff can be charged on the bike. Don’t know about the latest integrated model but I doubt they will have gone back to using the pedestal only.

Thats good, a definitely much needed improvement, so later ones ok for public charging if the charger can be in a locking cabinet and the lead from that to the bike long enough.
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[camerart]

This would need to be thought about as we go along, but my latest thought is if all batteries can be removed, perhaps they could be left, while the bike went with the rider. (for a cuppa)

To clarify to flecc. What ever needs to be left for charging would be hopefully locked in a box, where the charge socket would be inside the box also.

I was joking when I said I would send a message to Boris, but then sent one anyway. I also submited a petition to Parliament. Who knows whether anything will actually happen.

C.

 

[camerart]

Hi,

Anyone interested in this, please sign: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/109923

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN IF THERE AREN'T ENOUGH SIGNATURES ON THE PETITION.

C.

 

[anotherkiwi]

While in Nantes for the weekend I stumbled upon bike "cages". Kind of like a dog kennel for locking up bikes. All that was missing inside was an electric socket. And on top... yep a solar panel array. There you go! A free business plan for those of you with spare change you don't know what to do with: lockable, green energy bike charging stations.