Converting a "Fatty"

103Alex1

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Saw this and thought it would be a great bike to convert to an eBike for fun rather than just utility.

On-One Fatty

I bet you could ride that on sand OK and have some real fun. I guess you'd have to lace the original rear rim in to the motor.
 
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Spinalot

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They make great bikes. I went to the showroom once and the bikes are very well made and specced for the price. I doubt you could find a similar specced bike for the price they offer it at.
 

flecc

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Quote from the site:

"After over 18 months of development, testing, refining, product approval and reworking, we're finally ready to unveil the first production on-one Fat Bike."

18 months development! Really! No l/h crank arm fitted and no r/h pedal either! I think they've just thrown it together for the photo!

Should work nonetheless, and could be fun in the right circumstances.
 

nicoli

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I do like On-One bikes, and the Iditabike genre has always been one that made me stop and look. Think that would be a hoot!

You know your tyre is fat when it can run as low as 6psi!
 

103Alex1

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That's a really interesting article - many thanks for that. Think some key things come out of it - first the amount of power you'd need to run the bike decently (definitely a LiPo contender I think).

But my interest was largely sparked by the idea of a bike capable of running on wet sand and having sea spray thrown at it a lot. The choice of Rohloff hub gears by the San Francisco guy makes complete sense in that context. The main challenge is that for a multi-terrain bike sounds like you really need LOADS of power to compensate for the big tyres when you're not on sand and you're back to having to work with front wheel motors (not ideal). A recumbent or quad is probably a far easier match thinking about it - but reckon you could get something decent to work well with a 'fattie' bike. Whether the scope for using it is sufficient to justify the expense (always assuming a 2nd hand donor bike to start with) is a different equation that'll take more thought.

Seaside is a very harsh environment for any bike - even living close by means you have to maintain loads more than inland and shore up your waterproofing a lot more unless you want to steer the water's edge a wide berth. The air is constantly damp and this can play havoc with electrics too. I'm already going to be using contralube on all my pin connections and will be double-insulating every single join in the final assembly of a bike intended for regular coastal use along with using threadlock on every frame bolt etc.

Converted to build bikes - don't think I would want to but another ready-built bike tbh. The opportunities are endless and by building yourself you can shore up all the vulnerable components to take the sort of punishing you want to feel free to throw at your bike.

I don't think many ready-made bikes are designed intended for very harsh conditions (especially coastal conditions) on the whole. Even my last car dealer refused to replace a corroded boot clip which seized on a car under warranty claiming the damage was due to the salty air and their not having been the ones servicing it. :)rolleyes:). Pull the other one lol. In fact it had been inland more than by the sea and had been serviced at another dealer there.

But their excuse illustrates a valid point well - and I've always had an interest in solutions to build for use in extreme conditions. If you know you've got the means to readily go out and face those conditions or be more adventurous in selecting where and when you explore, without your equipment throwing wobblies or killing it in months rather than years, then you're more likely to 'just go for it'. And in my book, once you've done the appropriate planning and made sure you're kitted up to do so, that in the end is what life is all about.

There's an interesting article on the MAC/BMC motors here linked in that original piece you linked :

BMC Hub Motor Review | ELECTRICBIKE.COM

Very interesting idea about using hydraulic fluid in the motor when overvolting to avoid overheating. I wonder if the CST could be modded in the same way :p. ... It's a rear hub so likely not so good for a "sand fattie" but interesting nonetheless.
 
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103Alex1

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I missed that actually - thanks ! Pretty much my ideal bike for leisure that is. Shame about the price and I'd like 3 times the range. Not a golfer but would happily tow my wakeboard bag behind one of those and might even get to blow the cobwebs off it and ride again if I had a Hanebrink and hadn't moved so far from the nearest boat lake :rolleyes: Be cheaper to wait and get a car again though !!

If I was building a bike for "play" it would definitely be modelled on one of those Hanebrink ones.

Getting the right frame is the biggest challenge - the wheels and transmission are more readily surmountable issues if you're prepared to spend the time getting them sorted as a pet project. Reckon you could improve loads on the looks and built-in accessories too. The exposed mid-drive motor wants stealthing up a bit and the aesthetics / finishing could really be improved on - imho. But it's all a bit "balls out" in the States isn't it lol.

Well - guess it does no harm to dream. :)
 

BrianP

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I have just bought a Surly Moonlander Moonlander | Bikes | Surly Bikes

It's the biggest baddest fat bike of them all, and I love it. Just goes anywhere and great fun on the beach, or riding the shingle bank out to Hurst Castle.



These guys have already converted one,

[video=youtube;NY7UO9erG0I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NY7UO9erG0I[/video]

Obviously not a bike for the road, so unrestricted for off road use.

Brian
 

103Alex1

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So ...... are you gonna convert yours :D ?

Only thing which concerns me is sand and derailleurs aren't very good bedfellows !
 

stesteste

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probly the nicest bike i have seen, converted would be great,, how does the moonlander ride and feel . please give us a review

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103Alex1

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Like. Lots. Come on then, let's have a review and your plans for the Moonlander. Full-sus bikes tickle some peoples' fancies but that one has me stopped dead in my tracks. :cool:.

Whatever you do, build the battery into the triangle and get it boxed in completely. With a black Glosstex covering and some silver graphics in Solarlac or Solarfilm. It deserves it. Might even be willing to donate you a section of my marine ply sheeting for it if you wanted to construct one.
 

BrianP

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What can I say. The Moonlander is fun, it's comfortable, it's just great! I think fat bikes will make great bikes to convert. On One have their new Fatty which is just coming on stream.

On-One Fatty



I have my Kona Ute Electric, so no plans to convert the Moonlander in the short term, but can see me adding electric power in the future. There is so much room between the 100mm bottom bracket. It's already like a motorbike without an engine.

The fat tyres give so much confidence on any surface. I can ride out to Hurst Castle on the shingle spit, along the beach or any where. Running the tyres at 14 psi, actually a touch too hard, the tyres use 4" of width on sand, a narrower 3" on wet grass and just a narrow two inches on hard pack, due to the rounded profile.

[video=youtube;qrwuCLbVOpk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qrwuCLbVOpk[/video]

Please ask anything you need to know.

Brian