Eccentric rear light.

neptune

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Many years ago, there was a device on the market that encouraged overtaking drivers to give you a bit more space. It consisted of a thin plastic arm, sticking out from the rear hub of your bike. On the end was mounted a red plastic disc, which may or may not have had a reflector on it. I decided that I could adapt this idea on night rides. This winter, I have done evening rides, usually with up to four other cyclists, at least once a week, and over a distance of ten or twelve miles.

I like to use two rear lights, one on the seat pillar, flashing and a fixed one elsewhere. This week, I attached the fixed one to a short piece of dowel mounted on the rear rack. It is thus mounted about eight inches to the right of the bikes center line. It projects about two inches less than my handlebar.

The idea is twofold. First, it looks unusual, secondly, a driver approaching from behind is likely to assume that it marks the center of your bike, and thus allow you a bit more room. I am also considering having two fixed rear lights, one one each side of the bike, each one projecting about eight inches from the center line. My theory is that unusual light ensure you are noticed.

I did have one driver who objected to my set up as I rode through town on a dual carriageway. He refused to overtake me, even though there was plenty of room, even without him changing lanes.I usually ride well to the left. He was continually sounding his horn. About a hundred yards further on I was turning off and expected him to follow me, Instead he just sounded his horn again, and shook his fist at me. What was his problem?
 

RobF

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I remember those lollipop things.

Quite a good idea, they gave the bike a bit of extra width and road presence from behind.

More than one light is a good idea, but there are limits.

Jonny texting motorist who doesn't see you is not going to see you however many lights you have.
 
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flecc

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I did have one driver who objected to my set up as I rode through town on a dual carriageway. He refused to overtake me, even though there was plenty of room, even without him changing lanes.I usually ride well to the left. He was continually sounding his horn. About a hundred yards further on I was turning off and expected him to follow me, Instead he just sounded his horn again, and shook his fist at me. What was his problem?
Seems as if hs problem is that he's an idiot. Perhaps he was merely objecting to the departure from the norm, some just can't handle that.

Should this happen again, just stop and see what he does, go past or stop too!
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jonathan75

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What was his problem?
Problems plural I suspect, pathological empathy deficit, personality disorder, justified inferiority complex, among other things.

When I read things like this it reminds me how much I think one cycle cam isn't enough. I want a second one recording the drivers hysterically honking me for riding a safe distance from parked cars. Then they can explain why they did it to the copper who does them for a s 4(A) Public Order Act 1986 offence.
 

covehithe

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I remember the orange paddles you fixed to your carrier from the 60's
We had a neighbour who fitted paddles to his bike but with a twist!
He made the offside rigid by fixing a sharpened knitting needle to it with about 2mm sticking out.
He was very pleased that there were motorists out there who paid the price of driving to close to him.
 
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flecc

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Many decades ago there was an eccentric retired man who fitted a huge box shaped frame around his bicycle and rode various London commuting routes in the morning rush hours just to establish cycling rights.

He became quite famous/notorious with newspaper articles etc about him. I can't remember his name any longer, but the frame around his bike was around four feet wide, slightly higher than his height on the bike and just a bit longer than the bike. It was often adorned with notices about cyclist road space rights.

He was variously regarded by motorists with either amusement or anger, but he survived his years of trips!
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awol

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I've got one of these and don't see why it is not legal,it's quite ingenious really and simply puts red straight lines on the road either side of the bike either steady on or flashing. I don't use the red laser lines thought because it needs fitting to the seatpost to put them in the correct place and I can't so I just use the light part which are quite bright too.
 

flecc

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I've got one of these and don't see why it is not legal,it's quite ingenious really and simply puts red straight lines on the road either side of the bike either steady on or flashing. I don't use the red laser lines thought because it needs fitting to the seatpost to put them in the correct place and I can't so I just use the light part which are quite bright too.
We've discussed these "beam lines on the road" systems before, but I doubt they would be useful now when driver have to use dipped headlights in town. The powerful light from them would drown out any low power laser projected line, particularly since when correctly adjusted the beams are left biased in the UK.
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Croxden

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I'd prefer a 'Beam me up Scotty'
 

pdarnett

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I like the paddle idea, I'm currently designing an "intelligent" rear light that changes in relation to proximity of other vehicles, i.e. flashes faster or brighter or beeps etc. I may re think its design to have a paddle.
 
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