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I told you before. It has to be marked with the correct BS or EN number. CE marking isn't enough.
 

fastelectricbike

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Sorry to hear of your bad experience d8ve,

Regarding the wheel being in upside down I was not aware of that, but this one has a rubber cover for the nut so I thought it would be ok. I've had it for a while and the frame has held up so far it's aluminium and pretty strong so not worried about the extract arm.


Regarding safety I maintain the bike regularly so that's not an issue, and I think it safer to ride on the road at these speeds so never go on cycle paths, this is purely for faster commuting, I have other normal bikes for fun riding
 
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The rubber cover won't stop the water running in. It has a hole in it for the wire!
 

D8ve

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Knows what he is on about.
We might disagree on minor issues/interpretation but his technical knowledge is some of the top here.
 
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Robjohnb

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I told you before. It has to be marked with the correct BS or EN number. CE marking isn't enough.
Seems to be a lot of discussion on the web about whether the CE mark alone is sufficient. Loosing interest now.
In the eye of the law if summoned to court, I would like to think that if a light was purchased from a reputable shop and fitted working correctly this would not go against you.
 

trex

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Yes, but that one is not legal either. His rear light must be marked as conforming to BS3648, or BS6102/3, or an equivalent EC standard for the bike to be legal.
are you saying that all German bikes are illegal because their rear lights do not have appropriate BS markings? what about freedom of movement of people and goods?
 
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are you saying that all German bikes are illegal because their rear lights do not have appropriate BS markings? what about freedom of movement of people and goods?
The requirement is that they have to be marked with the correct BS or EN standard. If they have that writing on, it's legal to use them. Hardly any lights are marked in that way, so most cyclists are guilty of illegal acts. There's probably other things that make their bicycles illegal too. It's not a problem. Nobody gets prosecuted, but if you were involved in an accident at night time, a clever lawyer, could blame you for the accident. It's the same situation as having a bike with a motor above 200w, which is also illegal.

Nearly all these people that bleat on about people on illegal bikes are just as guilty. It would be best for everyone if they kept quiet.
 
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billadie

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I don't think the discussion was ever about strict legality, it was about what may happen in the event of an accident involving a bike capable of running at speeds of 30 MPH on an electric motor. The consequences for the rider would differ depending on whether that bike was registered/insured etc. as a moped or not. If it were, and no-one was hurt then I suspect the police would leave it to the insurance companies to sort out. If the bike were not registered/insured the rider may be prosecuted for several offences, receive a serious fine and points on their driving licence, even if the other part were at fault. If there were damage or injury to a person or vehicle then the injured party could also claim in the civil court against the rider, who, not having insurance, would find it difficult to defend themselves.

I suspect that the marking on the rear light would not entertain anyone for long.
 

trex

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you probably won't die if you hit a low wall or a car at 20mph but you likely will at 30mph.
The problem I see is the throttle, accidental trigger, whether electronic failure or finger trouble. I don't have a throttle on my bike and I don't miss it.
 

Arby

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Great video, thanks fastelectricbike I'll be following in your footsteps when my current e-bike (Burisch) warranty expires, 20mph sometimes just isnt enough!
On the legal side if you, like I, ride your 'moped' without attracting too much attention or antagonising other road users then the risk is well worth the reward! Unfortunately as the price of these kits drops and their popularity increases the chances of avoiding prosecution will inevitably diminish.But for now, Happy riding!