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Only-Me

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https://aniioki-uk.com/products/a8-pro-max-matte-black-ebike
Hi Folks has anyone here had any dealings with Aniioki-uk a friend ordered the above bike over 6 weeks ago and was told it would be with him by 25th of november but all he has received is the free gifts mentioned on the site - the panniers he has been in touch with the company several times only to be be told his grey car will be with him soon ? grey car ? he has ordered the A8 pro 52volt in Black he is a bit concerned as the recent communications stated his bike has been delayed by brexit checks at uk docks.
 

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Looking at your link, it still says delivery by November 25th, so I hope delivery all goes well eventually.

I hope your friend doesn't intend to use it on the road or in public spaces off road. It's going to be quite hard getting all the registration, insurance etc for legal on-road use, and it'll never be legal for off-road use expect on private land with no general public access.
 

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Looking at your link, it still says delivery by November 25th, so I hope delivery all goes well eventually.

I hope your friend doesn't intend to use it on the road or in public spaces off road. It's going to be quite hard getting all the registration, insurance etc for legal on-road use, and it'll never be legal for off-road use expect on private land with no general public access.
Thanks Yes its for use on his own land hes a cattle farmer in northumberland .
 
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Probably ok, the authorities often delay things they think might be illegally imported or not as described.

The website now says estimated delivery 8th to 12th December.
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ah, I see it says November 25th at the top, and 8th to 12th December further down.

I think I would have enjoyed being a cattle farmer in Northumberland; but probably in reality I'd have enjoyed it just for the first few days! We had friends who farmed above Langdon Beck right at the top of Teesdale, and it was hard.
 
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Probably ok, the authorities often delay things they think might be illegally imported or not as described.

The website now says estimated delivery 8th to 12th December.
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yes Thanks just noticed that too i will let him know :) he has quads and 6 wheelers for farmwork but this is more for stealth as he has problems with people illegal hare coursing on his land.
 
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Not to mention those dreadful solar ebikes stealing sunshine last September...

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yes Thanks just noticed that too i will let him know :) he has quads and 6 wheelers for farmwork but this is more for stealth as he has problems with people illegal hare coursing on his land.
And he does Deliveroo in his spare time too. I think I know him. He delivered my Kebabs last week, and we had a bit of a chat about cattle farming while he has at my doorstep. It's a hard time being a farmer since the budget, so I'm not surprised that some of them are doing Deliveroo in the evenings. Are you a farmer doing deliveroo too or delivering something else?
 
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me a farmer **** no way thats a hard life and i like my late mornings Ha ha All good fun but on a serious note he has his hands full this time of year i dont think DeliverPoo would be on his radar :)
 

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Why no ticket? There must be very lax parking wardens up there.
Three of them turned up in the morning, but seemed a bit slow on the uptake.

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Others may have been trapped below the morning mist in Teesdale.

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Meantime it was fill my boots time on top of the moor.

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Cheers all :)Great news folks my pals had a delivery this morning the
A8 pro has arrived hes bizzy charging the battery atm but did say its a lovely bike he only had to put the front wheel on and attach the handlebars im chuffed to bits for him so alls well that ends well :cool:
 

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I'm liking the fat tyres, suspension, and max weight capacity, but there's no mention of what cells it's battery is composed of - if good quality, surely they'd have mentioned that as a selling point? Considering how much this bike costs, could be cheapo cells, therefore I'd be interested to know it's real world range and battery longevity when pushed hard. How much does it's 60Ah battery cost to replace? Can't imagine it or they would be cheap, even populated with cheapo cells. Personally I would never have bought this thing, but in the one universe in the multiverse where I have, and that battery or batteries is/are being thrashed with high current drawn zooming up and down the countryside - it's being charged and stored outside in a waterproof humidity controlled metal box a long way away from anything else flammable, ideally suspended over a swimming pool, to be dropped into and fled from at the first sign of trouble. To reduce fire hazard, the bike in that universe would have had it's controller replaced with a lower powered one (if that motor is rated 1200W, what is the current drawn by the controller from cheap batteries?), the bike used without throttle, and it's cheapo celled battery(s) not stressed with high current drawn or charged fast. Then the battery replaced with a good quality one. Because posting it back to China for a refund would have been too expensive and implausible, it's the same story in many universes in the multiverse.

This pic of the unladen bike trailer is interesting, with it's implausibly horizontal tow arm. Have they replaced it's spring next to the the hitch with a metal rod for this product photo? Outside of fantasy land with it's sprung hitch, and that trailer actually carrying something more substantial than air, I bet that tow arm points more downwards, like the one on mine does. Perhaps it's held level by hidden wires.


 
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You have some very valid points in your post as i will not be speaking to him as hes very bizzy with the farm due to current weather but i will ask him in a few weeks for his thoughts on the bike with range and charging also some of your questions,
one thing he did say when i last spoke to him was the battery weighs a ton, and when he had it charging he pedalled the the bike without the battery in up and down the farm lane and he said despite its size it felt quite nimble unpowered :) i just out of interest had a look for info on the battery https://aniioki-uk.com/products/aniioki-ebike-battery-11994573?variant=50691883958601 quite a price i also noticed there is a dual motor one even more expensive but no info on cells only this info :
UL 2271 grade lithium-ion battery. The quick removable modular battery lets you charge the battery pack on or off the frame. It takes only 7~8 hours to charge fully. and the range can be 180--220 miles per charge.
FEATURES:
1. Total Battery Capacity: 3120wh/2880wh
2. To Fully Charge: 7-8 hours
3. Indicator: In Built-in charge level indicator
USE&FIT
Compatible with A8 Pro Max eBikes and AQ177 Pro Max eBikes
Note: The battery cannot be returned.
 
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i just out of interest had a look for info on the battery https://aniioki-uk.com/products/aniioki-ebike-battery-11994573?variant=50691883958601 quite a price
Your original link says the battery is 60Ah:

...and supposedly weighs almost 15kg:

"68 lbs Bike,33 lbs Battery"

Why has the replacement battery got a lower capacity than the original? There's no mention of "UL 2271 grade" in your first link. Is the original filled with crappy cheap cells? Our battery experts might weigh in here. If your friend is competent with electrics and feeling up to it, ask him to open up the battery and post photos of the internals, showing all labels and printings? Warranty is moot anyway, unless he's seriously considering attempting to post this big heavy battery to China when it fails, if it fails without burning.

Warranty is moot anyway, unless he's seriously considering attempting to post this big heavy battery to China when it fails, if it fails without burning.
Note: The battery cannot be returned.
Oh, he can't.


2. To Fully Charge: 7-8 hours
Also states that in your original link. If his battery is 60Ah made with cheap unknown cells, it's being charged fast and hot. Takes about 10 hours to charge my 19.2Ah battery at 2A.


he said despite its size it felt quite nimble unpowered :)
Smaller wheeled bikes have torque advantage where the tyre meets ground.
 
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The battery is 60Ah: the 3120/2880 numbers are Wh, for nominal 52V and 48V versions: 60Ah x 48V = 2880Wh.

The UL2271 is a recent new requirement in US, and should mean a better quality, safer battery.

7 or 8 hours charge time is safe for any size of battery because that is by definition a charge rate of 1/7 C or 1/8 C (or C/7, C/8).

'Fast' charging is generally more than 1C, and electric car fast charging is often a bit more than that. 20% to 80% in 30 minutes, for example, is 0.6 / 0.5 = 1.2C.

I don't see anything to worry me any more than any other generic battery.
 

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and the range can be 180--220 miles per charge.
Maybe not on a typical Northumberland farm?
Still, I wouldn't have thought range was that significant to your friend anyway?
 

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The battery is 60Ah: the 3120/2880 numbers are Wh, for nominal 52V and 48V versions: 60Ah x 48V = 2880Wh.
Thanks @matthewslack, missed that.


I don't see anything to worry me any more than any other generic battery.
I do wish more inexpensive 20" wheeled folding bikes were available with massive mid-situated high quality batteries, fat tyres, higher than usual weight capacity, disc brakes and full suspension. If this one had a manufacturer rated "250W" motor, and was capable of folding, I might have been interested, to buy and replace the controller with a high powered KT.
 
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matthewslack

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Big battery with a 'normal' 250W rated motor does not need the same quality of cells as a smaller battery because max current per cell is quite low.