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[Hymer1942]

Hi all, very little knowledge at all, I have put an advert saying I am looking for a pro connect or similar quality. But I am no really sure. Has anyone had exlerience of the Alien Ocean Apollo. I think I would quite like to start off without having to pedal, I would also like a bike that will get a move on and do at least 20 miles without hanging about, am I asking to much. All help will be appreciated.

Regards barrie

 

[banbury frank]

Hi Barrie

That is Exactly what we make we call it the commuter

It is limited to 15 MPH that is the uk limit but it is throttle only and can be simply De restricted to 28 MPH BUT only for off road use


Frank

 

[kitchenman]

Hi Barrie, If your not sure then its best to go and have a try ride. There are members who have Kalkhoffs Pro Connects and they are considered well. There are members who have Aliens but I'm not sure if anyone has the Apollo. If they do I'm sure they will let you know.
Its not what they look like its how they feel. This is why the advice is always go and have a try ride.
Good luck,

 

[oigoi]

Hi Barrie,
I would have a look at what dealers are in your area, it was very eye opening to me just to go to my local raleigh dealer and try the electric bikes they had, they are very similar to the likes of the pro-connect, though you do have to pedal, they have no throttle.
The Tonaro machines from powerpedals look to be great value for money and a lot of people on here have said they are great, have yet to read anything bad about them, and they have a throttle, so I would suggest they are worth thinking about, I am considering buying one myself, just waiting on having enough money.

 

[steveindenmark]

Look at all the bikes

Hi Barrie,

I am new to all this as well.

I have just ordered a Torano Enduro which has the option to pedal, or not depending how you feel at the time. I have done lots of review reading and have not read a bad review of the Torano bikes yet.

You will see we have lots of electric bike dealers in the forum and that is a good thing because they are always happy to give advice, usually on their own brand of bikes but often on other brands.

The electric bike field is a minefield that you have to steer a path through yourself, because only you know what you really want.

Make a list and post it on here and see what the other members have to say.

Go and try bikes out if you can and you may end up with something you never thought about in the first place.

Steve

 

[timidtom]

Try ten, buy one!

 

[jasono]

Try ten, buy one!

Great advice and what i did - although it wasn't quite 10. But seriously they all offer something and ride a little differently and most e-bike manufacturers are accomodating

 

[Hymer1942]

Thanks

Hi and thanks to all, If I ask some stupid questions please bear with me.

If I do the some distance as quick as the slowest bike will let me but same speed on the fastest bike

A on a 250 motor X 18

B on a 750 motor X 18 which battery will run out first I assume B am I correct

Second if I am looking to do 20/25 round trip mostly on throttle what will be my best

Amps, Volts and Watts

Last there is a big difference between say, Wisper, Kallkoff etc than some of the other
suggested bikes, eg Alien Apollo is there that much difference in quality

Thanks again Barrie

 

[banbury frank]

Demo

Hi Barrie

Are you very far from Banbury We have demo bikes

We are open 7 days a week

My E mail is frank@xipi.co.uk

Frank

 

[flecc]

If I do the some distance as quick as the slowest bike will let me but same speed on the fastest bike

A on a 250 motor X 18

B on a 750 motor X 18 which battery will run out first I assume B am I correct

Second if I am looking to do 20/25 round trip mostly on throttle what will be my best

Amps, Volts and Watts

Last there is a big difference between say, Wisper, Kallkoff etc than some of the other
suggested bikes, eg Alien Apollo is there that much difference in quality

Thanks again Barrie

B will run out first. Bear in mind that if you are in the UK, 250 watts rating is the legal limit, though the peak powers of 250 watt bikes vary.

These e-bikes are electric assist, so using on throttle only does greatly shorten ranges.

What you need for range is Ampere/hours for a given voltage. A 36 volt 14 Ah battery bike will go much further than a 36 volt 10 Ah one.

If the voltages are different, to compare use Watt/hours instead. That's the voltage multiplied by the A/h in each case. So a 24 volt 10 Ah battery has 240 W/h and a 36 volt 9 Ah one has 324 Wh and the second one is likely to have more range if all other factors are equal, despite it having less Ah.

However, there are other factors in play so always ask about a possible choice of bike in here and try before buying.
.

 

[Hymer1942]

Hi All anyone know about the Izip Trailz enlightened thanks Barrie

 

[flecc]

Someone posted that the battery that sits in the frame was no longer being made by the battery manufacturer and was asking for alternatives. So be careful if considering one of those, make quite sure that spare batteries will be available again. The battery is the older NiMh technology and at 24 volts and 9 Ah isn't a very long range one. If you use it without pedalling as you are proposing, I very much doubt it would reach 20 miles.

Otherwise it's a normal medium power rear hub motor bike, nothing special.

 

[Hymer1942]

Thanks again to all, I thought I might ask another one,

How many different bikes have the BOSCH system, that might be the road to go.

Barrie

 

[flecc]

I only know of the Haibike, though there may be more in Germany now. The Haibike is around three times the price of that Izip, do you have a budget figure that you wish to spend up to?

 

[Hymer1942]

Hi Flecc, I started with a moderate figure in mind say £7/£800 but I have soon realized that to get a bike to do most of what I want will cost more. Just had a look online at the Oxygen city ...

 

[vhfman]

Barrie
As flecc said there are more bikes available in Europe. From the Bosch web site Here is a PDF list of some of the bikes and manufactures with the Bosch drive system.

Chris

 

[JuicyBike]

Hi Flecc, I started with a moderate figure in mind say £7/£800 but I have soon realized that to get a bike to do most of what I want will cost more. Just had a look online at the Oxygen city ...

I'd love to hear what you think of our bikes...

 

[flecc]

Yes, definitely have a look at the Juicy Bike Sport models that Bob mentions. With a 37 volt 14 Ah battery and a 16 Ah one shortly, combined with throttles as well, they have what you want and the range you need.

 

[Hymer1942]

Morning all, cant thank everyone enough for all the help and please keep it coming. I feel a bit further on.
I think larger is better, 16/18amp, 36 volts etc. so now I am compiling a short list. The hard bit is working out the difference in price [ what for ] between say The Juicy to name one and say the Kalkhoff or Wisper, it must be in quality, but to a novice thats hard to define. Barrie

 

[Hymer1942]

Just a final thought but an important one.
BATTERY LIFE, do some have a longer life, and if so how do you know which, for instance there seems to have been some battery failure in the "first year", on Alien and some others. I will certainly be looking for a 2year guarantee, which I think is fair. Barrie