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lenny

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Arrest made and three bikes seized after operation dealing with anti-social behaviour and use of bikes takes place in Stockport
"Our officers dealt with more than 500 incidents during the first four months of the operation, making more than 50 arrests and seizing more than 125 bikes from areas such as Bolton, Oldham, Rochdale, Stockport, and Wigan. "
 

Baz the balloon man

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Police crackdown on illegal e-bikes in Ipswich town centre
My old pitch back in the late 80s and we had a baked potato stall under the arch in the background till a bent cop PC1075 run us out of town that was the first time made a lot of dosh back then till Thatchers re sessions nausead it all up
 

Baz the balloon man

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I had an interesting conversation with a food delivery guy working in the City of London today .

He rides a Standard Carrera I was changing the motor for him as his relatively new one 2024 at least was burning out.

He said he is getting stopped at least once a week for so called Safety checks.

One cop who did not have a clue said his bike had been modified and with no more detail said he was going to seize it .

After some objection a differs cop was called who then decided the bike was a road legal Pedelech .

A further Irony this hard working chap who is abiding by the law had his new I phone snatched by a masked dude on a e bike that he said took off at about 40 mph or more.

These guys obviously need help on how to get better standard bikes built for work that do not break all the time .

He said not worried about speed as in London it hard to drive any thing fast without having to stop all the time .
 

Nealh

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The met will seize any illegal ebike they stop, the rider is guaranteed a £300 fine and six points. Recently they stopped and seized a 2kw bike and the throttle registered 74mph unloaded, bloke fined and points , stupidly bloke replaced said bike with the same model. He got stopped again the same week.
 

thelarkbox

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Meanwhile in Oxford city centre i was buzzed past by at least 6x no-no ebikes with dinnerplate motors or steel box section frames and fat tyres, and speeds well in excess of 15 mph.. not a group just on the 25 minute run into town. No one being a dick in particular, just taking advantage of the motors fitted. The new generation of rat bikes ;)

Had a dentist appt circa mid day yesterday and my e-bike-dar after 2 yrs of running was performing in peek capacity.. Not just on the rd leaving me in proverbial dust. But hanging around on street corners and occupying choice lock up spots too..

I turned right into the city instead of my usual left for a cuppa with the expectation of a police check/encounter perhaps and was even quite keen to see how my diy makers sticker held up..

Not a single professional day ruinner in sight tho. Surprisingly few tourists too??
 

Baz the balloon man

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Spell check on this app !! I am already a bit dyslexic not as bad as Jamie not sure if I smoked to much weed years ago.

But seriously it’s not difficult if u want a e motor bike then get one .

Listening to LBC a week or so ago and James O Brain of all people wants to put number plates on bicycle s because they can do a whole 15 MPH ,

I ride an e bike because of big brother tax collection on movement now they want to tax bikes !!!!!!!!!

Or because Toerags on illegal motor vehicles want to rob people then we all must suffer unjust potential regulation .

And the old bill as usual target people going about there business and do not target the problem bit like weed make it legal to smoke then create 100% more dealers. Fudge fudge fudge is the order of the day !!!!

Love a good rant now and again
 

lenny

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May 3, 2023
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On patrol with the police seizing illegal e-bikes
Officers are cracking down on dangerous vehicles – and finding many are part of a government-funded scheme
 

Baz the balloon man

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Further to my previous post the chap from yesterday took his replacement wheel and motor home only to find his bike had been stolen !

Where is the crackdown and some protection from the authorities to stop people’s bikes getting nicked all the time and never seen again.

It good to get people out of cars but what’s the point if as soon as you lock your bike up some toerag nicks it.

He has asked me to build him a replacement so I will do a post if any one would like to input ideas for a road legal work bike something that will last a bit better for him commercial use .
 

Sparksandbangs

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Jan 16, 2025
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On patrol with the police seizing illegal e-bikes
Officers are cracking down on dangerous vehicles – and finding many are part of a government-funded scheme
Not sure what this means

Beaumont believes the commuter they stopped was genuinely ignorant of the law because he didn’t reach for his throttle to turn it off when she approached him – a telltale sign


Also LCD3s showing power in Watts may become a liability.
 

saneagle

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Not sure what this means

Beaumont believes the commuter they stopped was genuinely ignorant of the law because he didn’t reach for his throttle to turn it off when she approached him – a telltale sign


Also LCD3s showing power in Watts may become a liability.
There's no legal limit to how much power you can use. I already got someone a letter of apology from the police and his bikes back when they seized them because they thought they were using too much power. They didn't even need an LCD. They had one of those inductive current measuring devices that clamps round wires to figure out that his bike was using around 1500w. Also, that's power used, not power produced.
 

Sparksandbangs

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Jan 16, 2025
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There's no legal limit to how much power you can use. I already got someone a letter of apology from the police and his bikes back when they seized them because they thought they were using too much power. They didn't even need an LCD. They had one of those inductive current measuring devices that clamps round wires to figure out that his bike was using around 1500w. Also, that's power used, not power produced.
I agree but we aren't dealing with people that know anything about the law. We are talking about the Police. I'm thinking it is better to not get into the discussion in the first place.

Someone posted a video a couple of weeks ago where they confused the battery rating for the motor rating so I would not be hopeful for a sympathetic hearing at the roadside.
 
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flecc

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Where is the crackdown and some protection from the authorities to stop people’s bikes getting nicked all the time and never seen again.
No crackdowns or solutions are possible Baz, unregistered bicycles are intrinsically very thievable. Nobody knows more about cycling and bicycles than the Dutch, the world's leaders in cycling, but they are also the leaders in bicycle theft, a huge problem there.

Their solution is often to make their bike so unattractive that nobody wants it. On buying a new bike they'll even brush paint it with odd patches of different colour house paints, equip it with the old tatty panniers, saddle and handlegrips from their old bike and then never wash it.

So my suggestion for your commercial build use is to use cheap but reliable Chinese generic electrics and avoid making the bike look in any way stylish and attractive. Dull and boring looking is what to aim for, but of course make it obviously entirely legal for the current policing climate.
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Baz the balloon man

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No crackdowns or solutions are possible Baz, unregistered bicycles are intrinsically very thievable. Nobody knows more about cycling and bicycles than the Dutch, the world's leaders in cycling, but they are also the leaders in bicycle theft, a huge problem there.

Their solution is often to make their bike so unattractive that nobody wants it. On buying a new bike they'll even brush paint it with odd patches of different colour house paints, equip it with the old tatty panniers, saddle and handlegrips from their old bike and then never wash it.

So my suggestion for your commercial build use is to use cheap but reliable Chinese generic electrics and avoid making the bike look in any way stylish and attractive. Dull and boring looking is what to aim for, but of course make it obviously entirely legal for the current policing climate.
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Yes I see your point trouble is in London some one will nick just about anything just for scrap .

I would like to see warden patrolled and dedicated cameras on bike parks , even bigger pay to park schemes with a person looking after the bikes in places like Hyde Park or on the South Bank or similar so if we want to head down there for a day out bikes can be left safely and guarded like they do in Vietnam with motor bikes a dollar or two is well worth paying not to have your bike pinched .

But all we get is ways to penalise to rake in revenue.

On the builds cheap with no warranty’s for commercial use and just swap out when the parts are worn out is probably the way to go .

The Carrera motor I opened yesterday was burning and starting to seize in the hub case , I think the guy was lucky not to end up over the handlebars if it suddenly seized at speed .
 
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flecc

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Yes I see your point trouble is in London some one will nick just about anything just for scrap .
Strangely though, I'm in London and have cycled through most of my retirement for over 20 years, but have never owned a decent lock, just a flimsy cable one. On one occasion when I'd left the lock off the pedelec I "locked" it by winding a bungey cord around the frame and bike stand, hooking the end.

But I've never had bike or any bike part stolen or damaged and that includes three pedelecs costing between £850 and £1100 at the time. My only secret was not parking at regular places at the same regular times, giving the crooks no chance of anticipating and planning a theft.
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