New chain !

[AndyBike]

Isn't @saneagle mostly using a 48V mid drive TSDZ2 at the minute ?

NO! ...after all he's said ???

I can't believe Saneagle is a closet turncoat

 

[guerney]

Well, there's no gnashing of gear teeth when changing gear on my bike, because of the gear sensor, works perfectly in all but one extreme scenario - changing gear powered up steep hills in heavy rain. You wish you had one. You can't have it, it's mine.

 

[saneagle]

Isn't @saneagle mostly using a 48V mid drive TSDZ2 at the minute ?

Yes, but he's a masochist! It doesn't mean that you have to do it.

 

[guerney]

The only time I change cassettes is simply for more gearing , like Guerney I use gearbox oil and that's it bar swapping a chain out for clean now and then.
A typical rider doesn't imv need to bother about fussing for chain stretch or a new cassette every few chains .

I only use Hypoid 90 because you and saneagle kept going on about it, and it's superb lubrication for chains, far superior to the 4 in 1 mineral oil I was using previously. I slather it all over the chain and cassette using one of those small horse hair brushes for electronics. If inclined to clean the chain, without removal, you could slather it on heavily, wipe off the cruddy excess with newspaper (no big loose fibres), then apply again. Repeat until completely clean, cleaning the brush with isopropyl in between slatherings. I'm not admitting to doing all that. My experiment mixing in a little of my lifetime's supply of Aeroshell 22 from it's big tin didn't go well, to reduce spatter (and attempt using it up), not in winter anyway. Aeroshell 22 might be less margarine-like in hot weather.

 

[Cadence]

I read a recommendation somewhere on t'internet that 90% EP90 gear oil mixed with 10% sewing machine oil is a good mix for bike chains. I thought I had some EP90 in the garage but only have 20w/50 mineral engine oil. I'm too much of a tightwad to buy both EP90 and sewing machine oil just to try it, but it would be interesting to hear from someone who has . The sewing machine oil apparently helps the mix to penetrate into the rollers but the gear oil is still thick enough not fing off all over the bike.

 

[matthewslack]

I read a recommendation somewhere on t'internet that 90% EP90 gear oil mixed with 10% sewing machine oil is a good mix for bike chains. I thought I had some EP90 in the garage but only have 20w/50 mineral engine oil. I'm too much of a tightwad to buy both EP90 and sewing machine oil just to try it, but it would be interesting to hear from someone who has . The sewing machine oil apparently helps the mix to penetrate into the rollers but the gear oil is still thick enough not fing off all over the bike.

That mix is near as damn it EP80! Go direct, much less fuss!

 

[thelarkbox]

I read a recommendation somewhere on t'internet that 90% EP90 gear oil mixed with 10% sewing machine oil is a good mix for bike chains. I thought I had some EP90 in the garage but only have 20w/50 mineral engine oil. I'm too much of a tightwad to buy both EP90 and sewing machine oil just to try it, but it would be interesting to hear from someone who has . The sewing machine oil apparently helps the mix to penetrate into the rollers but the gear oil is still thick enough not fing off all over the bike.

Wot Not paraffin wax and iirc ultra fine ground titanium oxide?
Last time i browsed on the subject that was all the rage?

 

[saneagle]

I read a recommendation somewhere on t'internet that 90% EP90 gear oil mixed with 10% sewing machine oil is a good mix for bike chains. I thought I had some EP90 in the garage but only have 20w/50 mineral engine oil. I'm too much of a tightwad to buy both EP90 and sewing machine oil just to try it, but it would be interesting to hear from someone who has . The sewing machine oil apparently helps the mix to penetrate into the rollers but the gear oil is still thick enough not fing off all over the bike.

That was some guy's brilliant idea for thinning it down a bit. Unfortunately, he wasn't clever enough to figure out that he could have bought EP80 if he wanted thinner oil, but the whole point of 90 grade is that it sticks to the chain because it's viscous.

 

[AndyBike]

Its only the inside rollers(bushes) that should have any lube on them. If your chain is coated inc the outside, that attracts dirt, which sticks to it and creates a grinding paste
(I know most here know this, but some may not)

 

[saneagle]

Its only the inside rollers(bushes) that should have any lube on them. If your chain is coated inc the outside, that attracts dirt, which sticks to it and creates a grinding paste
(I know most here know this, but some may not)

The problem is that if the chain is not protected everywhere, it will go rusty as soon as water gets on it.

 

[AndyBike]

The problem is that if the chain is not protected everywhere, it will go rusty as soon as water gets on it.

I suppose thats why i spend a tiny bit more on nickle plated.

 

[saneagle]

I suppose thats why i spend a tiny bit more on nickle plated.

All my chains are the cheapest you can buy from Ebay. They usually last 5 years with just EP90. No need for expensive nickel. I'm not sure about my crank-drive bikes, but I'll soon be back on hub-motor again, so I won't need to worry about it.

 

[scbk]

I don't know if it's actually any better, but KMC do a mid drive ebike chain

I don't normally use Halfords, but with the sale price it seemed cheaper than anywhere else

https://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-parts/gears-drivetrain-and-cables/kmc-e10-e-bike-10-speed-chain-silver-122l-300486.html